JonC Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Has anyone got or used one? I’m looking for a new reel, mainly for boat casting. The 12 seems to be the smallest in the marquesa range holding about 300m of 50lb braid from what I’ve seen. The reel weighs about the same as an Abu 7000 so I’m figuring similar size? The only person I know has one is @GPSguruwho uses a bigger version but he doesn’t emerge from his coffin until the sun goes down 🤣 Geoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Avet SX is nice for boat casting. I have no experience of the Fin Nor reels. Not sure how available parts are? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Odyssey said: Avet SX is nice for boat casting. I have no experience of the Fin Nor reels. Not sure how available parts are? I like the look of the avets, but I was given a nice voucher for Christmas for Fils tackle who stock the fin nor reels so that’s why I’m looking at them and they caught my eye last time I went to the shop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Very noisy reels when winding in, i find it irritating. Solidly built but i find the drag a little twitchy when setting. I use a Daiwa 30 Saltist for uptiding and am very pleased with it. JonC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, JonC said: Has anyone got or used one? I’m looking for a new reel, mainly for boat casting. The 12 seems to be the smallest in the marquesa range holding about 300m of 50lb braid from what I’ve seen. The reel weighs about the same as an Abu 7000 so I’m figuring similar size? The only person I know has one is @GPSguruwho uses a bigger version but he doesn’t emerge from his coffin until the sun goes down 🤣 Yes, I have a 12, 16, and a two speed 20. But, I dont do boat casting as I always fish downtide, but most of my time is spent 'gilling' on the wrecks. TBH, I can't see the point of uptide fishing when it is a small boat with only a couple of anglers on board, the disturbance of hull sound and lines in water is minimal. They are very well made reels but have one very annoying trait, the anti-reverse pawl (separate to the ratchet) is extremely annoying, akin to nails being scrapped across a blackboard. However, a simple mod which takes all of 5 mins solves the issue. The reel uses a spragg bearing (one way bearing) and under extreme load spragg bearings can slip a little, so they fit this annoying pawl as a mechanical back up to the bearing The answer is to take out the side cover screws and remove the pawl circlip, the pawl, and the spring. This makes the reel absolutely silent. I tested the spragg bearing for slip and I couldn't get it to slip at full max drag, so quite happy with that. I noticed that when I had it apart, it uses a 4 pin centrifugal brake, so it will be ok for casting, but I have removed the brake sleeves as I often want a very fast drop when wrecking. These are the bits you need to remove - 5 minute job Edited January 2, 2022 by GPSguru JonC and Maverick 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 15 minutes ago, GPSguru said: Yes, I have a 12, 16, and a two speed 20. But, I dont do boat casting as I always fish downtide, but most of my time is spent 'gilling' on the wrecks. TBH, I can't see the point of uptide fishing when it is a small boat with only a couple of anglers on board, the disturbance of hull sound and lines in water is minimal. They are very well made reels but have one very annoying trait, the anti-reverse pawl (separate to the ratchet) is extremely annoying, akin to nails being scrapped across a blackboard. However, a simple mod which takes all of 5 mins solves the issue. The reel uses a spragg bearing (one way bearing) and under extreme load spragg bearings can slip a little, so they fit this annoying pawl as a mechanical back up to the bearing The answer is to take out the side cover screws and remove the pawl circlip, the pawl, and the spring. This makes the reel absolutely silent. I tested the spragg bearing for slip and I couldn't get it to slip at full max drag, so quite happy with that. I noticed that when I had it apart, it uses a 4 pin centrifugal brake, so it will be ok for casting, but I have removed the brake sleeves as I often want a very fast drop when wrecking. These are the bits you need to remove - 5 minute job That sounds like an essential thing to do, I couldn’t be living with a ratchet making clicking noises all the while. Thanks for tip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 37 minutes ago, Dicky said: Solidly built but i find the drag a little twitchy when setting. Yes, the drag is silky smooth but setting at low drag levels can be irritating as less than 1/8 of a turn on the drag knob alters the drag by about 1lb. I use 30lb braid and set the strike drag at about 5lb ish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, JonC said: That sounds like an essential thing to do, I couldn’t be living with a ratchet making clicking noises all the while. Thanks for tip. Yes, don't be put off by it, the job only takes 5 mins, but transforms the reel to being completely silent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 @GPSguru with regards to the uptide/casting technique remember I’m fishing in 10-20’ of water usually in a 21’ boat that does slap a bit so it’s different to your model in deeper water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 1 minute ago, GPSguru said: Yes, don't be put off by it, the job only takes 5 mins, but transforms the reel to being completely silent. Joking aside is it straight forward enough for someone who’s a scaffolder not a watch maker? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Just now, JonC said: @GPSguru with regards to the upside/casting technique remember I’m fishing in 10-20’ of water usually in a 21’ boat that does slap a bit so it’s different to your model in deeper water The absolute minimum I fish in is 35ft, more often it is 60 -90ft, and then over 100 - 250ft on the wrecks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 2, 2022 Author Share Posted January 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, GPSguru said: The absolute minimum I fish in is 35ft, more often it is 60 -90ft, and then over 100 - 250ft on the wrecks. I would have to steam 30 miles to get in 100’ and even then I could still run aground on the sands. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, JonC said: Joking aside is it straight forward enough for someone who’s a scaffolder not a watch maker? Absolutely . Take out the 4 torx screws on the side plate (handle end) and that removes the complete gearbox and spool from the casing. Look just under the handle mechanism, and you can see the pawl. Using a small screwdriver and/or a pair of long nosed pliers you can ease off the tiny circlip, then lift the pawl with a screwdriver and there is just enough room for it to slide out between the side plate and pinion gear. Then just lift off the spring ........... it really is an easy job. There is a review of the reel here ............ https://planetseafishing.com/tackle/reels/fin-nor-marquesa-ma12/ Fin Nor supply a torx driver with the reel. Edited January 2, 2022 by GPSguru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, JonC said: I would have to steam 30 miles to get in 100’ and even then I could still run aground on the sands. 1/2 a mile out, and I am in 30 -40ft, one mile out it is 50 -60ft ................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willyhookit Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 9:49 PM, GPSguru said: Yes, the drag is silky smooth but setting at low drag levels can be irritating as less than 1/8 of a turn on the drag knob alters the drag by about 1lb. I use 30lb braid and set the strike drag at about 5lb ish. Hi Ian have you ever used ( Cals drag Grease ) us it on all my reels makes for a really smooth Drag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 7 hours ago, willyhookit said: Hi Ian have you ever used ( Cals drag Grease ) us it on all my reels makes for a really smooth Drag Yes Alain, I have changed all the drag washers on the charter specials for Carbontex, and they are all lubbed with Cals drag grease to give a silky smooth drag. For those interested, the Carbontex drag washers and Cals drag grease are available from Jims Reels in Wiltshire. The fin nor reels already have a silky smooth drag straight out of the box (they use a twin carbon fibre drag system), and as yet i haven't found the need to grease them with cals. The Maxels also have a nice smooth drag, which is a prerequisite for SPJ, so I assume that these reels also have a Carbon Fibre drag system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 @JonC ............. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 4 minutes ago, GPSguru said: @JonC ............. 👍 Certainly looks like a nice bit of kit. @JonC, how big is it, compared to, say, a Penn Fathom or an Abu? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Andy135 said: Certainly looks like a nice bit of kit. @JonC, how big is it, compared to, say, a Penn Fathom or an Abu? It’s not much bigger than a 6500, just a little bit ‘taller’ though the end plates are similar diameter, certainly not as big as a 7000. I followed @GPSguru ‘s advice/guidance (I had a live video feed) to remove the noisy pointless clicker and now it’s silent. First impression of it are very good, the insides look very well engineered- far more so than the Abus that I am used to. Andy135 and GPSguru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, JonC said: to remove the noisy pointless clicker I was a bit of over engineering, just in case the sprag bearing slipped under load (which they have been known to do), however, I think the chances of this happening at the sort of drag levels we use is in the 'very unlikely' category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 28 minutes ago, JonC said: It’s not much bigger than a 6500, just a little bit ‘taller’ though the end plates are similar diameter, certainly not as big as a 7000. I followed @GPSguru ‘s advice/guidance (I had a live video feed) to remove the noisy pointless clicker and now it’s silent. First impression of it are very good, the insides look very well engineered- far more so than the Abus that I am used to. Nice. Well done on the reel surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Looks a nice well made reel @GPSguru is this reel good for spj ing ? If so what sort of money are they Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Had a quick look on the net and they go from £220 upwards but only in right hand ? Do they make a left handed version ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, jonnyswamp said: Had a quick look on the net and they go from £220 upwards but only in right hand ? Do they make a left handed version ? Avet SXJ in left hand be a nice option Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 35 minutes ago, Odyssey said: Avet SXJ in left hand be a nice option I use precisely this for my SPJ rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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