Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Recently ordered another Ugly Stik GX2 20-30lb rod to make a pair with one I already own. Upon inspection today it seems that either they've changed their blanks or they put a 20-30lb label on a 12-20lb blank by mistake. Rod on the left is the new one. My existing 20-30lb is on the right. Diameter of tip on left is 2mm, 2.8 on right. Test curve is also different. Both rods tested with a 6oz weight and you can clearly see that the far rod bends more with the same weight as the rod in the foreground (my existing rod). I'm considering sending it back unless anyone can tell me if they're all like that now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Have you tried on a spring balance to see what sort of force is needed to bend it through 90 degrees, compared to your existing one? It may just have a more sensitive tip and similar middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, JonC said: Have you tried on a spring balance to see what sort of force is needed to bend it through 90 degrees, compared to your existing one? It may just have a more sensitive tip and similar middle. No, and that's a good suggestion. I've also got the retailer measuring the tip diameters of their other stock to see if they're all like it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Now tested with a digital weighing scale. New rod = 2lb 5oz test curve. Old rod 2lb 15oz test curve. So 10oz difference between the two, and I could easily feel the difference when testing them. 🙁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, Andy135 said: Now tested with a digital weighing scale. New rod = 2lb 5oz test curve. Old rod 2lb 15oz test curve. So 10oz difference between the two, and I could easily feel the difference when testing them. 🙁 So what you gunna do? Have you emailed Shakespeare? I bet they blame it on covid!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I have the 12-20, it’s a good rod but not what you ordered so not great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, Saintly Fish said: So what you gunna do? Have you emailed Shakespeare? I bet they blame it on covid!! I'm waiting for the retailer to do the legwork for me. They are checking their other stock of the same rod to see if they're all like that, or if I got a duff one. We'll take it from there. Might return it, or might keep it as a 12-20lb rod instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Still for £60 what do you want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Andy135 said: I'm waiting for the retailer to do the legwork for me. They are checking their other stock of the same rod to see if they're all like that, or if I got a duff one. We'll take it from there. Might return it, or might keep it as a 12-20lb rod instead. Well for £50 why not!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, JonC said: I have the 12-20, it’s a good rod but not what you ordered so not great. Yeah, I have not problem with the rod per se, other than it's not what it says it is on the label... unless it transpires that Shakespeare changed the blank and in effect watered down the 20-30lb rod. In which case I'll be back on the market for another 20-30 rod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, JonC said: Still for £60 what do you want? Just now, Saintly Fish said: Well for £50 why not!! Well, for £75 what I want is the rod I thought I was getting. Most places were sold out, and others that had them in stock were all asking £75 or thereabouts. Gone are the days of a rock-star rod for £50 I suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Andy135 said: Well, for £75 what I want is the rod I thought I was getting. Most places were sold out, and others that had them in stock were all asking £75 or thereabouts. Gone are the days of a rock-star rod for £50 I suspect. Well, that's your staff tally down a man then at that price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 @JonC, any chance you could put a measure across the tip of your 12-20lb Ugly Stick, on the top of the glass section just under the tip ring, and tell me what the diameter of yours is please? And if I remember correctly @Saintly Fish, the rod you got built for Leo was on an Ugly Stik blank, wasn't it? Is it a 20-30lb version and if so, could you measure the tip diameter too please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Saintly Fish said: Well, that's your staff tally down a man then at that price! They're dropping like flies. I'd better reign in the spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Andy135 said: @JonC, any chance you could put a measure across the tip of your 12-20lb Ugly Stick, on the top of the glass section just under the tip ring, and tell me what the diameter of yours is please? And if I remember correctly @Saintly Fish, the rod you got built for Leo was on an Ugly Stik blank, wasn't it? Is it a 20-30lb version and if so, could you measure the tip diameter too please? Mine is on the boat unfortunately and that’s about a 10minute drive away so sorry not tonight unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, Andy135 said: @JonC, any chance you could put a measure across the tip of your 12-20lb Ugly Stick, on the top of the glass section just under the tip ring, and tell me what the diameter of yours is please? And if I remember correctly @Saintly Fish, the rod you got built for Leo was on an Ugly Stik blank, wasn't it? Is it a 20-30lb version and if so, could you measure the tip diameter too please? No Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Just now, Saintly Fish said: No Well not right now anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 11 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Well not right now anyway. When then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 11, 2022 Author Share Posted January 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, JonC said: Mine is on the boat unfortunately and that’s about a 10minute drive away so sorry not tonight unfortunately. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 19 minutes ago, Andy135 said: When then? Later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I remember the original ugly stik's, bending wasn't even a concept back then. They also made a CB aerial out of them (Firestik)....... Ahhhh the 70's When rod tips were stiffer than a porn stars moustache!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, suzook12 said: I remember the original ugly stik's, bending wasn't even a concept back then. They also made a CB aerial out of them (Firestik)....... Ahhhh the 70's When rod tips were stiffer than a porn stars moustache!! Wasn’t it the Thunderpole? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 14 minutes ago, JonC said: Wasn’t it the Thunderpole? No, that was a uk legal offering as far as i can remember..... Think the uglystik name may have been used as well.... Apparently, shakespeare originally traded as uglystik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, suzook12 said: No, that was a uk legal offering as far as i can remember..... Think the uglystik name may have been used as well.... Apparently, shakespeare originally traded as uglystik I’ve got old shaky stuff from the early 80’s , like the old school green metal framed seat box. I think every kid had one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I had a thunderpole on a 10m mast with boots that could reach all the way to Basildon ( about 5miles🤣). And an echo mic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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