Scotch_Egg2012 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 It works in the Western Solent on the smaller tides, but to be fair I had them work in all but the biggest springs around Nab. I don't use them to properly pop a bait up but more as an offset of the weight of the hook and line so the bait flutters enticingly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Scotch_Egg2012 said: It works in the Western Solent on the smaller tides, but to be fair I had them work in all but the biggest springs around Nab. I don't use them to properly pop a bait up but more as an offset of the weight of the hook and line so the bait flutters enticingly How long do you keep the squid past the hook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_Egg2012 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Saintly Fish said: How long do you keep the squid past the hook? just so it goes over the eye to hold it in place then I slide the pop ups down just above the bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, Scotch_Egg2012 said: just so it goes over the eye to hold it in place then I slide the pop ups down just above the bait. Yeah I meant at the pointy end. I normally have about an inch hanging off the hook point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_Egg2012 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Depends what i'm fishing for, I don't like to give Bream too much to tug at else they rip a squid strip off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 We have strong tides around our area and other than the last/first of the tide, your bait will only ever be hard on the bottom. The norm for uptiding is 10oz fixed wire leads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 😂🤣😂 Luke (@Odyssey) will soon be enquiring about helicopter rigs, Chod rigs, 360 rigs, snowman rigs, in-line drop off rigs, and Zig rigs .................... I have been known to hair rig a Joey or Whiting livebait ......... they last longer and are more active ........... Edited December 14, 2020 by GPSguru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 I’ve used running ledgers, I gave up for tope and hounds. Ive had them hit the bait so hard the lead ends up on the mainline stuck behind leader knot. I’ll use a paternoster rig, but don’t like crimps. So looking for a STRONG 3 way swivel or any other way that won’t tangle. The old way of a blood loop will tangle too much.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 28 minutes ago, Odyssey said: I’ve used running ledgers, I gave up for tope and hounds. Ive had them hit the bait so hard the lead ends up on the mainline stuck behind leader knot. I’ll use a paternoster rig, but don’t like crimps. So looking for a STRONG 3 way swivel or any other way that won’t tangle. The old way of a blood loop will tangle too much.... PM incoming ........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 7 hours ago, GPSguru said: PM incoming ........... Unless this is a state secret of the Jon le carre stylie, why has this gone to PM ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Unless this is a state secret of the Jon le carre stylie, why has this gone to PM ? Because they don’t want you knowing all their secrets and catching all their fish. Obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 18 minutes ago, JonC said: Because they don’t want you knowing all their secrets and catching all their fish. Obviously. Well I thought this was a friends help and share forum. Not a secret clique group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Unless this is a state secret of the Jon le carre stylie, why has this gone to PM ? Because I needed to know where to send a package to the welch needy as they have suffered badly with this virus due to lack of social distancing standing in the queue to shag the communal sheep tied to a lamp post in the town centre 🤣 Andy135 and Geoff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 6 minutes ago, GPSguru said: Because I needed to know where to send a package to the welch needy as they have suffered badly with this virus due to lack of social distancing standing in the queue to shag the communal sheep tied to a lamp post in the town centre 🤣 Ian wins the internet today! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 8 minutes ago, GPSguru said: Because I needed to know where to send a package to the welch needy as they have suffered badly with this virus due to lack of social distancing standing in the queue to shag the communal sheep tied to a lamp post in the town centre 🤣 Fair enough then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 14 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Fair enough then. I am sure that @Odyssey will be happy to spill the beans in a couple days time ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 15 hours ago, Scotch_Egg2012 said: The pop ups give your bait a more neutral buoyancy if set up right. I ran a side by side test of two identical rigs on the Bream one with yellow pop ups and one without. The pop up rig out-fished the other rig by a considerable margin. Usually set with 1 or 2 yellow (Seems to be the colour for Bream) pop up beads just above the hook. I have been using them on all my scratching rigs and you'd be surprised what you catch on them. I took my niece out for the Bream early this year set her up on a pop up rig, she caught a small Tope, a fair few Smoothound amongst the Bream again I was fishing a non popped rig for a test and she out-fished me massively. You'd also be surprised by the amount of Ray's I have had on it. Scott - thanks for sharing. Quality post 👍 Scotch_Egg2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 15, 2020 Author Share Posted December 15, 2020 3 hours ago, GPSguru said: I am sure that @Odyssey will be happy to spill the beans in a couple days time ....... @GPSguru has kindly offered to send a few sample parts over to myself so a donation to RNLI will be on the way soon! Penarth, Porthcawl or Angle depending on where/when I am next on the coast 🙂 On a lighter note. The sheep are safe from me..... 😉 Andy135 and GPSguru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 13 minutes ago, Odyssey said: The sheep are safe from me..... Yeah right GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 37 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Yeah right So was @jonnyswamp first in queue 🤣 jonnyswamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, GPSguru said: So was @jonnyswamp first in queue 🤣 My money's on @headlight GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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