captin slows old outlaw Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 are thesethe best wights for trolling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 They will do the job for shallow water but you would be better off with the long ones. I think @Saintly Fish had a batch made up, ask him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 2 hours ago, captin slows old outlaw said: are thesethe best wights for trolling We troll using a Portland rig, with a 3 or 4oz cannon ball lead as they don't spin. The lure trace on the portland is about 5ft. mike farrants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 If you plan on making any, I use these double eyed molds https://store.do-itmolds.com/Trolling-Sinker-Molds_c_178.html Personally I don't like the leads with swivels inserted into the lead as I found they tend to break off after a few uses, not sure if its the heat from the molten lead that weakens them or what. What speed, depth, lure size, and line class will you be wanting to use them for ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 I’ve got a mould for 6oz leads which are inline leads I use for shark rigs. I don’t like eyes/swivels in leads as another point of failure in your set up. captin slows old outlaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captin slows old outlaw Posted December 19, 2023 Author Share Posted December 19, 2023 11 hours ago, JDP said: If you plan on making any, I use these double eyed molds https://store.do-itmolds.com/Trolling-Sinker-Molds_c_178.html Personally I don't like the leads with swivels inserted into the lead as I found they tend to break off after a few uses, not sure if its the heat from the molten lead that weakens them or what. What speed, depth, lure size, and line class will you be wanting to use them for ? at the moment . i dont really know as i have just started to look into doing it. i never dun trawling before. speed wise would be 4 to 5 nots, with brade on the real . when i was yonger ( yes i know that was a long time ago jon )there was a whaight that you twisted the line around the body of the whaite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 3 hours ago, captin slows old outlaw said: at the moment . i dont really know as i have just started to look into doing it. i never dun trawling before. speed wise would be 4 to 5 nots, with brade on the real . when i was yonger ( yes i know that was a long time ago jon )there was a whaight that you twisted the line around the body of the whaite Jardine spiral. Useful as easy to remove from line when using spinners for bass and mackerel captin slows old outlaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted December 19, 2023 Share Posted December 19, 2023 I use a "D" shaped lead about 10oz on my kayak sometimes when travelling from mark to mark and want a couple of mackerel, but I don't go faster than 2kn. It's on a handline with 2-3 tinsels above and a traditional mackerel spinner below. I've had it for years, possibly from the mid 80's but I haven't seen those for years. captin slows old outlaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 On 12/18/2023 at 2:38 PM, GPSguru said: We troll using a Portland rig, with a 3 or 4oz cannon ball lead as they don't spin. The lure trace on the portland is about 5ft. and what speed do you troll? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 1 hour ago, mike farrants said: and what speed do you troll? You might not have the available speed for trolling on Pugwash 🤣 Saintly Fish and Geoff 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 that's why i'm asking - surely I wont need a weight at all lol 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captin slows old outlaw Posted December 28, 2023 Author Share Posted December 28, 2023 pugwosh must be able tro do 5 to 4 nots surley outherwise he would not get back into the harber or may be not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 Yeah its full displacement so up to 6 knots on a good day - just wondered what trolling speeds are generally as i haven't ever done it - but its suits Pugwash perfectly on a nice day in Weymouth bay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 4-5 knots is a typical trolling speed. I’d also advise a paravane to get keep your lure/bait down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 28, 2023 Share Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, mike farrants said: and what speed do you troll? Ideally 2kts ish, any faster than 3kts and the bass need a motorbike to catch you up ! Edited December 28, 2023 by GPSguru daio web 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 great thanks - i've drifted with a Portland rig before but not trolled - and with a paravane what's the set up there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 4 hours ago, mike farrants said: great thanks - i've drifted with a Portland rig before but not trolled - and with a paravane what's the set up there? I don't use a paravane, I adjust the amount of lead to control the troll depth. Around here, 3oz seems to work well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 thanks ian - so 3oz ball lead, portland rig, at 2knots redgill type lure? soft plastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, mike farrants said: thanks ian - so 3oz ball lead, portland rig, at 2knots redgill type lure? soft plastic? Usually a 115mm red gill, in blue/white. Fiish minnows (or a lookalike) in khaki also work, especially over rough ground as they are weedless. if it is a very bright day the maybe silver pearl, if it is a darker day then black can often work well. we also troll feathers to find the mack when thay are thin on the ground. mike farrants 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captin slows old outlaw Posted December 29, 2023 Author Share Posted December 29, 2023 21 hours ago, GPSguru said: Ideally 2kts ish, any faster than 3kts and the bass need a motorbike to catch you up ! i whont have to over woork my seagull then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I use a paravane if I’m bored and fancy a scenic cruise 🙂 I run it about 8ft up from a J13B on an old spinning rod. No big bass but had some when cruising the haven at 3knts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 thanks everyone - i'll give it a try sometime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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