JonC Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 When you rig an anchor do you do away with all the swivels and just use a regular shackle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Yep, shackle to the pointy end and cable tie to the shaft. JonC and GPSguru 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 Might need more than one cable tie, depending on the size/weight of your tub, the strength of the tides you fish and the ground you anchor over. Bit of trial and error required. Dicky 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 I just use a standard D shackle and 3-4 8mm cable ties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Andy135 said: size/weight of your tub That’s not the measurements of main concern. How about the ballast? GPSguru and Andy135 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted July 8, 2021 Share Posted July 8, 2021 48 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: I just use a standard D shackle and 3-4 8mm cable ties. Kin'ell that is a bit extreme and would take some serious power to break ........ I use one 4mm cable tie and have never had is break out in normal use, but with a RIB I have to manually haul, so I need to be able to break it with relative ease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 8 hours ago, GPSguru said: Kin'ell that is a bit extreme and would take some serious power to break ........ I use one 4mm cable tie and have never had is break out in normal use, but with a RIB I have to manually haul, so I need to be able to break it with relative ease. Yes but your inflatable weighs next to nothing. If I’d have used just 1 4mm tie I wouldn’t hold bottom. After going up to 5/6 4mm I decided to go down to less ties but up the thickness. This was on my Parker by the way not Tarlach Too. I’d hate to know what strength I’d need for a 4 tonne boat in strong tides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Yes but your inflatable weighs next to nothing. If I’d have used just 1 4mm tie I wouldn’t hold bottom. After going up to 5/6 4mm I decided to go down to less ties but up the thickness. This was on my Parker by the way not Tarlach Too. I’d hate to know what strength I’d need for a 4 tonne boat in strong tides. Something to consider though is that you are pulling parallel to the anchors shank, it’s only when you are trying to pull it that the rope angle goes square Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 25 minutes ago, JonC said: Something to consider though is that you are pulling parallel to the anchors shank, it’s only when you are trying to pull it that the rope angle goes square Yes true. But still, if I needed that many thick ties on a 1 tonne boat….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 24 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Yes true. But still, if I needed that many thick ties on a 1 tonne boat….. It would be interesting to see how much force is needed to snap out the zip ties. Although you have a 4 ton boat it’s not a dead lift so there won’t be anyway near that amount of load on the anchor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, JonC said: It would be interesting to see how much force is needed to snap out the zip ties. Although you have a 4 ton boat it’s not a dead lift so there won’t be anyway near that amount of load on the anchor Yes agreed, but…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Yes agreed, but…. I’m thinking that you should cable tie Tarlach2 to your digital scales fixed to a pontoon and do some pull out tests. Don’t forget your safety glasses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 48 minutes ago, JonC said: I’m thinking that you should cable tie Tarlach2 to your digital scales fixed to a pontoon and do some pull out tests. Don’t forget your safety glasses. This is a brilliant suggestion. Well done boffin Jon. 🤓 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 5 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Yes but your inflatable weighs next to nothing. Actually, surprisingly heavy, about 1300kg , probably heavier than a warrior etc ............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, GPSguru said: Actually, surprisingly heavy, about 1300kg , probably heavier than a warrior etc ............ Definitely heavier than a Warrior type boat, which is usually around the 5-600kg mark. Add another 150kg for the engine and they're still only about half of Bluefin's weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Andy135 said: Definitely heavier than a Warrior type boat, which is usually around the 5-600kg mark. Add another 150kg for the engine and they're still only about half of Bluefin's weight. The bare hull and Tubes are 400kg, then add the console, seat pods, A frame, 150hp engine, 90L fuel tank, etc, etc........... with 2 adults and fully loaded we are probably close to 1500kg on the water........... but we don't have the windage of a hard boat 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, GPSguru said: The bare hull and Tubes are 400kg, then add the console, seat pods, A frame, 150hp engine, 90L fuel tank, etc, etc........... with 2 adults and fully loaded we are probably close to 1500kg on the water........... but we don't have the windage of a hard boat 👍 Or the curtains and cushions. looser Andy135 and GPSguru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 19 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Or the curtains and cushions. looser The coffee machine too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, JonC said: The coffee machine too! Good point! Or the TV. Or the heating. Or the heads!! Oh and the stove with running water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 21 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Good point! Or the TV. Or the heating. Or the heads!! Oh and the stove with running water. It was a bit strong charging £3 for the extra shot of expresso though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 minute ago, JonC said: It was a bit strong charging £3 for the extra shot of expresso though! But worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 I still use a swivel on the base and only one cable tie to trip = i figured the swivel will help as the anchor is being pulled towards the aldernery ring - i had a coiled knot in my chain once and it wouldn't go through the ring - dont want that again. I also have a swivel between chian and rope now too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted July 9, 2021 Share Posted July 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Saintly Fish said: Or the curtains and cushions. I suppose they are ok for wiping you hands, or wiping your arse if you get caught short. 🤣 Actually I reluctantly have one waterproof boat cushion on Bluefin, it was given to me as a present by my grand daughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted July 9, 2021 Author Share Posted July 9, 2021 3 hours ago, mike farrants said: I still use a swivel on the base and only one cable tie to trip = i figured the swivel will help as the anchor is being pulled towards the aldernery ring - i had a coiled knot in my chain once and it wouldn't go through the ring - dont want that again. I also have a swivel between chian and rope now too! My self launch roller prevents me from rigging to trip as there is enough room to cable tie the chain along the shank. I think I will have to make a short second of rope up with eyes in the end to tie wrap more compactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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