Popular Post Odyssey Posted September 8, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) So weather was perfect last Friday to get back offshore. Nice late start at 07:30 to pick up Ian ( @headlight ) on way out. Was going out with a mate to be his buddy boat as it was first time to the deeps. quick 2 hour steam out and saw some birds working the surface so motored around for an hour or 2 but nothing busting or taking. Got the baits out. Nice steady stream of blues to 110lb but a slow drift meant slow results. No more bird activities so no tugging plastic. Headed back in for 19:00 lock. Met up with charter skipper and crew for the Welsh CHART kick off. Had a few beers and swapped tales of sea monsters and such like. Early start at 5am to meet the scientific observer. A lovely lady who is a fisheries enforcement officer for Welsh Government. Lots of stores of crab wars between the commercials… but was good to understand them and gif her to chat to us and see how we operate. Was a bit gusty at this point but nothing too bad…. Trolled spreader bars for a couple of hours but swell was too big… it was a good practice run but I kind of knew we wouldn’t get fish… Skipper and myself only ones not seasick. Good job I had full weather gear on… for the horizontal rain in now 35knt gusting wind and the chunks blowing around the boat…. Interesting run home in 3m+ swell with wind over tide near haven… Skipper did a great job and got us back safely. Was nice to jump in shower and warm up as I was working the deck making sure spreader bars weren’t tangling while being hit sideways by waves and rain…. Poor result but we tried… Im making a concious effort not to post any shark pictures on social media. These are likely to manipulated by the anti brigade and not providing any ammunition… however, all fish released boat side and lip hooked using barbless circles… we did have one fish hooked twice (I saw the tag) so I know they are ok post capture… Just waiting for COVID to bugger off (tested positive Monday morning), westher to improve and can get back out there either as crew or on my own boat to see if can find some more fish 🙂 Edited September 8, 2022 by Odyssey Andy135, Josh, jonnyswamp and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 Very good report Luke 👍 Sounds like you're having a blast! Can't wait to read your first successful CHART report 🎣🎣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Andy135 said: Very good report Luke 👍 Sounds like you're having a blast! Can't wait to read your first successful CHART report 🎣🎣 I’m looking forward to shouting abuse (sorry I mean encouragement) at the anglers who hook up 🙂 As crew I’m responsible for coaching them through the fight, leadering, measuring, tagging, reviving the fish with the skipper. Won’t be on every trip as Rob got a few others as crew and I’m sure they will be keen to get involved too 🙂 Just hope the anglers don’t mind a bit of encouragement 😉 Edited September 8, 2022 by Odyssey Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Odyssey said: Im making a concious effort not to post any shark pictures on social media. These are likely to manipulated by the anti brigade and not providing any ammunition… Can you elaborate this please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Odyssey said: Im making a concious effort not to post any shark pictures on social media. These are likely to manipulated by the anti brigade and not providing any ammunition… however, all fish released boat side and lip hooked using barbless circles… we did have one fish hooked twice (I saw the tag) so I know they are ok post capture… I have never posted any shark or big mack pics anywhere for the same reasons. I just feel that is a good plan not to give the haters any ammo. I haven't been out since late July due to family stuff keeping me too busy, but I can see some light at the end of the tunnel now, so normal service will resume shortly. Word on the block is that there are not as many BFT around yet, but those that are there, are a larger stamp of fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Can you elaborate this please? Begin Quote: Proposal to ban recreational sea angling for Porbeagle - The current position of this proposal is that the JNCC have made their recommendation to Defra who will share it with the House of Commons and the House of Lords before reaching/communicating the final decision. None of this will happen before a new PM is appointed and both houses return from their summer break. As we get closer to the time when the politicians will have sight of the JNCC recommendation it is even more important that we don’t provide those who proposed the ban with any more material they can use. Images, even if they are showing best practise, are routinely manipulated and used against the sport. Reports of caught fish, long fight times etc are also be used against us. The vast majority of charter skippers have heavily edited their Porbeagle posts and many have stopped them entirely this year. Reducing their business marketing is a big sacrifice for these businesses and we should all respect that by not making any posts ourselves unless you are 100% sure they are being posted in a private site. I appreciate some of you may be a bit hacked off with my repeated preaching on this subject but one bad image or piece of poor reporting when we are so close to both houses reviewing the JNCC recommendation could easily change the minds of politicians who currently have a neutral view to one where they support the ban. If we are to succeed in challenging this proposed ban, all participants in the sport, whether they are commercial or private individuals, need to work together on this and resist any temptation to post stuff. Once a post is made, we lose any opportunity to challenge any misinformation put in the minds of the politicians and the public by the media. All it takes is one post, no matter how correct it is, to be manipulated and incorrectly presented for recreational sea angling for Porbeagle to be banned and that would just be the start - bans on other shark species would quickly follow. Please help us challenge this ban by either not posting any porbeagle material or only sharing it to 100% private sites End of Quote. Due to this I won’t be posting catch pictures or providing too much detail. Feel free to PM if you want help/pics etc 🙂 Just don’t want things used out of context 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 25 minutes ago, Odyssey said: Begin Quote: Proposal to ban recreational sea angling for Porbeagle - The current position of this proposal is that the JNCC have made their recommendation to Defra who will share it with the House of Commons and the House of Lords before reaching/communicating the final decision. None of this will happen before a new PM is appointed and both houses return from their summer break. As we get closer to the time when the politicians will have sight of the JNCC recommendation it is even more important that we don’t provide those who proposed the ban with any more material they can use. Images, even if they are showing best practise, are routinely manipulated and used against the sport. Reports of caught fish, long fight times etc are also be used against us. The vast majority of charter skippers have heavily edited their Porbeagle posts and many have stopped them entirely this year. Reducing their business marketing is a big sacrifice for these businesses and we should all respect that by not making any posts ourselves unless you are 100% sure they are being posted in a private site. I appreciate some of you may be a bit hacked off with my repeated preaching on this subject but one bad image or piece of poor reporting when we are so close to both houses reviewing the JNCC recommendation could easily change the minds of politicians who currently have a neutral view to one where they support the ban. If we are to succeed in challenging this proposed ban, all participants in the sport, whether they are commercial or private individuals, need to work together on this and resist any temptation to post stuff. Once a post is made, we lose any opportunity to challenge any misinformation put in the minds of the politicians and the public by the media. All it takes is one post, no matter how correct it is, to be manipulated and incorrectly presented for recreational sea angling for Porbeagle to be banned and that would just be the start - bans on other shark species would quickly follow. Please help us challenge this ban by either not posting any porbeagle material or only sharing it to 100% private sites End of Quote. Due to this I won’t be posting catch pictures or providing too much detail. Feel free to PM if you want help/pics etc 🙂 Just don’t want things used out of context 🙂 Fair enough. Thanks. In this case "no pics means it really didn't happen"!! JonC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 31 minutes ago, Odyssey said: Due to this I won’t be posting catch pictures or providing too much detail. Feel free to PM if you want help/pics etc 🙂 Just don’t want things used out of context 🙂 This is totally fair enough. For what it's worth I have just now changed the forum settings so that the Toothy Critters sub-forum cannot be viewed by guests, only registered members. jonnyswamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Fair enough. Thanks. In this case "no pics means it really didn't happen"!! Well given the latest weather won’t be any fish as won’t be any trips 😬😬😬😬😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, Andy135 said: This is totally fair enough. For what it's worth I have just now changed the forum settings so that the Toothy Critters sub-forum cannot be viewed by guests, only registered members. Don't really see the point in that mate. If somebody wants to read it they only got to join. Thanks for running it past the SLT though!! #nomodshere🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Don't really see the point in that mate. If somebody wants to read it they only got to join. Thanks for running it past the SLT though!! #nomodshere🙄 Yeah, it was just a quick reaction to Luke's post. I'll raise it on the next SLT strategy meeting for further discussion - for example, there is a way to allow access to members who have proved they're not anti's in disguise - post count, # of positive reactions given & received etc. @Maverick has been in touch with some good suggestions on the same too. I reckon we'll need to put our heads together to decide on the right way to go about this but a private section just for active members certainly has its benefits. Saintly Fish and Maverick 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted September 8, 2022 Share Posted September 8, 2022 5 hours ago, Odyssey said: I’m looking forward to shouting abuse (sorry I mean encouragement) at the anglers who hook up 🙂 As crew I’m responsible for coaching them through the fight, leadering, measuring, tagging, reviving the fish with the skipper. Won’t be on every trip as Rob got a few others as crew and I’m sure they will be keen to get involved too 🙂 Just hope the anglers don’t mind a bit of encouragement 😉 I hope this coaching also includes hysterically ripping the piss when they get it all wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted September 8, 2022 Author Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, jonnyswamp said: I hope this coaching also includes hysterically ripping the piss when they get it all wrong You’d fit right in on my boat 🤣🤣🤣🤣 jonnyswamp and suzook12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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