Saintly Fish Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Ok, so being a technical dullard, my chart subscription has run out. I've renewed no problem, bought a new SD card to put the info on. Ive down loaded the new charts to my active captain app and transferred the data (I think), but I've now lost all my fishing marks and relief shading from the app and plotter. Marks are not really an issue as I know where they are physically. But not having the relief shading is pissing me off. I'm sure this happened last year but I can't remember what I had to do to sort the issue. Any ideas?? Im fed up sat here for an hour trying to work through the settings and getting nowhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 One word... Lowrance. GPSguru and Malc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Andy135 said: One word... Lowrance. When a man is down waddaya do? Give him a kicking👞 seriously though, Lowrance 👍 Edited May 8, 2023 by Malc Andy135 and GPSguru 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 Yeah but no GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Saintly Fish said: Ok, so being a technical dullard, my chart subscription has run out. I've renewed no problem, bought a new SD card to put the info on. Ive down loaded the new charts to my active captain app and transferred the data (I think), but I've now lost all my fishing marks and relief shading from the app and plotter. Marks are not really an issue as I know where they are physically. But not having the relief shading is pissing me off. I'm sure this happened last year but I can't remember what I had to do to sort the issue. Any ideas?? Im fed up sat here for an hour trying to work through the settings and getting nowhere. Well, we need to start from the beginning. Have you downloaded the correct chart with relief shading ? There are 2 versions of the charts, one with and one without. Does the shading show ok when using the active captain app ? If not then enable that layer using the control in the top right hand corner. Lowrance vs Garmin ? ….. Garmin kit is generally better made, more reliable, and more intuitive to use 👍 daio web 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daio web Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 hi neil i think you had to uninstall it and reinstall if my memory serves me right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Relief shading only works when transferred via active captain. Only a chart can be transferred using Garmin Express. when it did the cart transfer to the active captain card, the active captain app should have downloaded the chart from garmin, then validated the download, then transferred the chart to the plotter card, then validated the transferred data, so 4 steps that seem to take forever ! once transferred, you need to reboot your plotter, by turning off. Sometimes you also need to remove the card, and then reinsert as the plotters seem to forget it is there. daio web 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, GPSguru said: Well, we need to start from the beginning. Have you downloaded the correct chart with relief shading ? There are 2 versions of the charts, one with and one without. Does the shading show ok when using the active captain app ? If not then enable that layer using the control in the top right hand corner. Lowrance vs Garmin ? ….. Garmin kit is generally better made, more reliable, and more intuitive to use 👍 The relief shading does not show on the layers options. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 And yes Ian I have ticked the relief shading option in the chart download settings. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 1 hour ago, Saintly Fish said: The relief shading does not show on the layers options. That is not right, and the reason why you have no shading on the plotter. I am out at the moment and I need to think about it. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Does the chart number start with VEU ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 3 hours ago, GPSguru said: Lowrance vs Garmin ? ….. Garmin kit is generally better made, more reliable, and more intuitive to use 👍 I was only messing, I have no problems with my lowrance elite 5 combo even though it's about 8 years old it does more than I require of it. I just need to paddle out to marks and get an idea of the bottom structure, relief shading and side scan are more than I need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 38 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: When you did the download to active captain, did you try to dowload the whole chart, or did you set the adjustable download area, the the area that you normally operate in (i.e. solent, isle of wight etc) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 5 hours ago, GPSguru said: Lowrance vs Garmin ? ….. Garmin kit is generally better made, more reliable, and more intuitive to use 👍 Well, we've had threads here previously on why Garmin maps are not downloading or how to update them etc. I think mostly from @Saintly Fish to be fair so it could just be user fuckwittery but we haven't had any similar threads for Lowrance, because Lowrance software usually just works. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 17 minutes ago, Andy135 said: Well, we've had threads here previously on why Garmin maps are not downloading or how to update them etc. I think mostly from @Saintly Fish to be fair so it could just be user fuckwittery but we haven't had any similar threads for Lowrance, because Lowrance software usually ONLY just works Fixed that for yer 😉😇👍 Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, GPSguru said: When you did the download to active captain, did you try to dowload the whole chart, or did you set the adjustable download area, the the area that you normally operate in (i.e. solent, isle of wight etc) ? Yes, I just selected my area and channel isles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Andy135 said: Well, we've had threads here previously on why Garmin maps are not downloading or how to update them etc. I think mostly from @Saintly Fish to be fair so it could just be user fuckwittery but we haven't had any similar threads for Lowrance, because Lowrance software usually just works. Yea it's me I'm 100%. It's something I only do once a year so not a thing that sticks in the head. As you know I'm a manual person not a techie nerd like you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 37 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Yea it's me I'm 100%. It's something I only do once a year so not a thing that sticks in the head. As you know I'm a manual person not a techie nerd like you! Ok, I think I had a similar issue when Garmin used the ‘chart tiles’ in active captain. once you get the shading working in active captain, then it will work when you dump it on the plotter. I think you just need to start again, by deleting your current chart selection, make sure you have ‘download relief shading’ ticked, and then reselect the area you want. I noted that the boatless unwashed is taking the pee, we can wait 😉🙄🤣🤣👍 Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 Use delete charts from the chart screen, top right hand button 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 BTW Neil, the chart I use is VEU001R, which is the English Channel and western approaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 You need to get to this on active captain, and then it will dump to the plotter ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 8, 2023 Author Share Posted May 8, 2023 44 minutes ago, GPSguru said: Use delete charts from the chart screen, top right hand button 👍 That's just the thing Ian, I did delete the charts. Think that's why I also lost all my Marks. I'll have another try tomorrow . Don't think I'll bother next year, I'll just use the old out of date chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 8, 2023 Share Posted May 8, 2023 25 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: That's just the thing Ian, I did delete the charts. Think that's why I also lost all my Marks. I'll have another try tomorrow . Don't think I'll bother next year, I'll just use the old out of date chart. The marks will be stored on the plotter, they are not stored on the active captain card, so once you 'sync' with the plotter, they will all come back on active captain. Good thing is, you can play around at home until you get it right, without having to go to the boat. I haven't updated my charts for nearly 2 years, TBH very little changes. daio web 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daio web Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 come to think about it i dont think i have relief shading on my plotter i only think its on my phone i will have a look on the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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