F***ing boats

[jonnyswamp]

Popped down to the boat this morning to connect up the new trim tab switch after drilling the hole out on the weekend

That's now working as it should, complete with shiny led's to tell me where my tabs are

Started the engine and the starter motor stuck on, had to kill main engine battery switch to stop it

Tested the ignition switch, seems fine, gives 12v down wire to starter motor when turned to crank and goes dead when key released

Run a wire direct from battery to starter solenoid and starter still stays on until main engine switch is turned off

The engine kill switch will kill the engine, but with the starter still spinning, it just fires back into life 

I've got the SM home now and a mate is coming up to have a look a bit later

Also it's not the original SM as the label states it was made in 2008 (boat is 04) it's also a "cargo" make, not a well known brand ?

The specs say it is rated at 2.7kw, is this adequate for a 4.2l diesel, as always seems a bit laboured when engine is cold

So my question is really, if I need to replace the SM, do I replace like for like with what broken down or try and find what was fitted from new

Have rang and messaged a firm that specialises in these engines, but no reply as yet

PS, what's going on with the italics 

[Andy135]

No idea on the starter replacement, but as for the italics, edit your post, then select the italicised text and then click the I for Italic icon in the text format bar at the top of the post - should revert it back to normal.

[Saintly Fish]

41 minutes ago, jonnyswamp said:

Also it's not the original SM as the label states it was made in 2008 (boat is 04) it's also a "cargo" make, not a well known brand ?

If it’s been on there that long then it couldn’t have all been bad? Or is it something robbed off another engine and put in yours after 2008? 
Can you not get it refurbed? 

[jonnyswamp]

3 hours ago, Saintly Fish said:

If it’s been on there that long then it couldn’t have all been bad? Or is it something robbed off another engine and put in yours after 2008? 
Can you not get it refurbed? 

A new identical one is £133 delivered, just wondered whether this was a direct replacement for the original, or, as you say just a cheap replacement 

[suzook12]

Sounds more like a solenoid fault, if the solenoid is holdong over the motor will keep turning over

 

[jonnyswamp]

13 hours ago, suzook12 said:

Sounds more like a solenoid fault, if the solenoid is holdong over the motor will keep turning over

 

Yes it is, tested it last night

Ordered a new starter motor from cargo 

Just had a reply back from the engine company, they want £722 plus delivery, plus insurance, plus vat and would be a special.order direct from manufacturer 

The last cargo one was fitted in 2008/2009

I don't mind swapping it again in 12/13 yrs

[jonnyswamp]

1 hour ago, JonC said:

Can it be matched to a Bosch one? 

Don't know, have found other manus such as Mahler, Delco Remy and one other who's name I've forgotten

But I'll be happy if I get 10 yrs plus from it

I'll be happy if I'm around in 10 yrs plus TBH

[jonnyswamp]

New starter motor was ordered Tuesday 4.40pm and turned up yesterday at 10.15am, excellent service

Had my first request to open an account with HC Cargo refused, after ordering and paying for the SM on Monday evening

Spoke to one of their sales people and as I work in the plumbing/heating industry, I didn't meet their remit to qualify for an account (need to be a mechanic/fitter etc)

So I rang back an hour later and spoke to the same sales person who agreed that my newly formed marine service company would qualify and set me up on their system and processed my order 🤠

So, fitted the new SM this morning and all going like a dream

Took a quick zip around the bay, then back to the mooring ready for the next outing and back to work by 1 ish

 

[Saintly Fish]

1 minute ago, jonnyswamp said:

New starter motor was ordered Tuesday 4.40pm and turned up yesterday at 10.15am, excellent service

Had my first request to open an account with HC Cargo refused, after ordering and paying for the SM on Monday evening

Spoke to one of their sales people and as I work in the plumbing/heating industry, I didn't meet their remit to qualify for an account (need to be a mechanic/fitter etc)

So I rang back an hour later and spoke to the same sales person who agreed that my newly formed marine service company would qualify and set me up on their system and processed my order 🤠

So, fitted the new SM this morning and all going like a dream

Took a quick zip around the bay, then back to the mooring ready for the next outing and back to work by 1 ish

 

Good work there cowboy! 👍🏻
yeeeehaa. 

[jonnyswamp]

38 minutes ago, JonC said:

Very good work. What’s access to the starter like ? Mine is awful, needs 3 elbows

Pretty good, I can see the 2 mounting bolts and the cable connections, just can't get a full spanner on them

On my last boat (an 1988 bayliner 2359) I took out the petrol V8 and fitted a diesel V8, which was a fair bit bigger and everything was done via touch

That was soul destroying to work on