jonnyswamp Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) I need someone to visit my boat to go through my electronics system to determine if my AIS and radar actually work The Radar doesn't appear on any of the MFD screens The AIS has a flashing light on the unit (which is mounted in the cabin) but doesn't show up on the MFD's either Boat is in Cardiff Bay Would ideally like someone with plenty of experience with Garmin stuff (installation and set-up) and not a general electrician @Odyssey Luke, did you mention a while back that you knew of someone locally ? EDIT 1 x Garmin gpsmap 7410 xsv 1 Garmin gpsmap 5012 1 Garmin gpsmap 5212 1 Garmin 18 ?? radar dome Plus usual transducers, antennae etc Edited June 29, 2023 by jonnyswamp Extra info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, jonnyswamp said: I need someone to visit my boat to go through my electronics system to determine if my AIS and radar actually work The Radar doesn't appear on any of the MFD screens The AIS has a flashing light on the unit (which is mounted in the cabin) but doesn't show up on the MFD's either Boat is in Cardiff Bay Would ideally like someone with plenty of experience with Garmin stuff (installation and set-up) and not a general electrician @Odyssey Luke, did you mention a while back that you knew of someone locally ? Why not ring Garmin technical and go through it with them? They are pretty good and know their stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Why not ring Garmin technical and go through it with them? They are pretty good and know their stuff! I found their instal team unhelpful but the tech guy talked me through a full on off reset last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 23 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Why not ring Garmin technical and go through it with them? They are pretty good and know their stuff! I have spoke to them in the past and found them great, but this is more of an installation/wiring question or problem, rather than a technical issue I need someone who installs these systems regularly to have a look I'm going down tomorrow to go through some basic fault finding, will have to take panelling off to check/identify cables which will be a PITA Also to see if I actually have power going to the Radar, as noting is listed on any of the fuse boxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 20 minutes ago, JonC said: I found their instal team unhelpful but the tech guy talked me through a full on off reset last week. Like I said, they're pretty good. And very responsive to emergency actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daio web Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 it might be a good call jonny boy plus you will get to lear all what they are saying because it will be hands on remember to remove all the panels first just incase and a extra bonus you will have more money for fuel and bait simpils jonnyswamp and Saintly Fish 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 40 minutes ago, jonnyswamp said: I have spoke to them in the past and found them great, but this is more of an installation/wiring question or problem, rather than a technical issue I need someone who installs these systems regularly to have a look I'm going down tomorrow to go through some basic fault finding, will have to take panelling off to check/identify cables which will be a PITA Also to see if I actually have power going to the Radar, as noting is listed on any of the fuse boxes It’s an Arvor, the wiring is atrocious as standard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daio web Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 jonny there is a company in cardiff bay they are called marine electronics wales at https;//www.marineelectronicswales.com hope you can sort it bud jonnyswamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 59 minutes ago, daio web said: jonny there is a company in cardiff bay they are called marine electronics wales at https;//www.marineelectronicswales.com hope you can sort it bud He’s a good guy, Salvo, runs that massive lump of a charter boat out of Penarth Marina part time. Puravida in Penarth also good, they took over Ed Risby who is at CBYC. He was a Garmin and Raymarine guy. Salvo will most likely get you sorted 🙂 I’ll check with the boss but I maybe free on weekend to have a look but I don’t know much about Garmin…. Only Lowrance/Simrad jonnyswamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, JonC said: It’s an Arvor, the wiring is atrocious as standard The standard boat wiring isn't that bad, it's the networking cables between the plotters/radar etc I need a bit of time spent on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, daio web said: jonny there is a company in cardiff bay they are called marine electronics wales at https;//www.marineelectronicswales.com hope you can sort it bud Thanks @daio web, I'll give him a call tomorrow when I'm down there Thanks @Odyssey I had a number from a guy in the club last year (maybe year before) I got talking to in the yard, may be one and the same Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 26 minutes ago, Odyssey said: He’s a good guy, Salvo, runs that massive lump of a charter boat out of Penarth Marina part time. Puravida in Penarth also good, they took over Ed Risby who is at CBYC. He was a Garmin and Raymarine guy. Salvo will most likely get you sorted 🙂 I’ll check with the boss but I maybe free on weekend to have a look but I don’t know much about Garmin…. Only Lowrance/Simrad Puravida is a surf shop ? Couldn't find any reference to electronics on their website ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 16 minutes ago, jonnyswamp said: The standard boat wiring isn't that bad, it's the networking cables between the plotters/radar etc I need a bit of time spent on Have you tried turning it off and on a few times? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, JonC said: Have you tried turning it off and on a few times? 🤣 Yes, every time I moor up I turn it off and every time I go fishing I turn it back on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Just now, jonnyswamp said: Yes, every time I moor up I turn it off and every time I go fishing I turn it back on Oh thought it was worth a try. How about hitting it a bit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted June 29, 2023 Author Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 minute ago, JonC said: Oh thought it was worth a try. How about hitting it a bit ? Haven't tried that yet, maybe tomorrow Been through the alphabet of expletives though JonC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, jonnyswamp said: Puravida is a surf shop ? Couldn't find any reference to electronics on their website ? They are in Penarth Marina where the old Team Marine used to be, operating out of that workshop now jonnyswamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) Have you checked the Garmin Marine Network cable pins from the radar to the network ? Are these all connected via NMEA 2000 through a powered NMEA starter kit ? Is the software up to date. Have you checked the basics by using the menu, settings-Communications-NMEA 2000 set up. -device list. If so is the radar showing here in the device list ? If not showing check the starter kit fuse. Check the bus bars are all connected correctly. I don't use radar so not sure how the menus work but is there a pause radar like there is for transducers and if so make sure its simply not paused. Its a real pain if you have the unit setup how you like it and have to do a factory restart and make sure you have your fishing spots backed up if do a full restart. https://www8.garmin.com/manuals/webhelp/gpsmap7400-7600/EN-US/GUID-D91F8D5F-FF56-4BC0-8988-63473D5F46B0.html Edited June 29, 2023 by JDP jonnyswamp and daio web 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted June 30, 2023 Author Share Posted June 30, 2023 Bit of an update Unplugged the radome and checked power cable, no power Only 4 bolts, so thought I'd remove the unit and take it to Lukes recommendation to see if they could power it up and maybe check functionality Lifted it free of the mountings and thought. christ this is heavy Got it on deck, turned it upside down and drained 2 gallons of rusty water through the hole on the top (that had a bit of tape over it) Just got it home and split it apart, it has had water in it for a good while by the looks of it Every thing rust stained and seized There was a plastic nut and a rubber washer floating around inside, was this once connected to a blanking plug that went through the hole in the top ? Anyway, new 18" radome required Saintly Fish and daio web 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaByte Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Isn't there a drain hole in the bottom so water can't collect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Do you have any photos of the water? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 14 hours ago, JonC said: Do you have any photos of the water? Think of a melted Calipo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 16 hours ago, MegaByte said: Isn't there a drain hole in the bottom so water can't collect? If there is, it was blocked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted July 1, 2023 Author Share Posted July 1, 2023 Geoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 There is a an engineering term to describe this…. It’s called FUBAR…. Sadly I think that’s beyond repair 😞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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