GPSguru Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) Yes they are Gilts from the Tamar .................. the big identifier give away is the big black spot just behind the gill covers. We get Gilts in all our estuaries here, some bigger than others ........ in the Teign we max out at about 2lb, but other estuaries like the Yealm and the Erme fish of 5lb or more are not uncommon with the record standing at 12lb which came from (IIRC) the Salcombe estuary (Salcombe is not a true estuary it is a Ria). A terrifically hard fighting fish, where small strong hooks are a must, I generally use Sakuma Chinu Pattern hooks .............. bait is the key for these, small Gilts can be caught on worm (Rag), but the bigger specimens will always go for Peeler and Razor baits .............. Edited January 19, 2021 by GPSguru Scotch_Egg2012 and suzook12 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 minute ago, GPSguru said: the Salcombe estuary I love Salcombe!! A beautiful place to spend a long weekend. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 9 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: I love Salcombe!! A beautiful place to spend a long weekend. For us, it is a 45min boat ride ............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_Egg2012 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 59 minutes ago, GPSguru said: Yes they are Gilts from the Tamar .................. the big identifier give away is the big black spot just behind the gill covers. We get Gilts in all our estuaries here, some bigger than others ........ in the Teign we max out at about 2lb, but other estuaries like the Yealm and the Erme fish of 5lb or more are not uncommon with the record standing at 12lb which came from (IIRC) the Salcombe estuary (Salcombe is not a true estuary it is a Ria). A terrifically hard fighting fish, where small strong hooks are a must, I generally use Chinu Pattern hooks .............. bait is the key for these, small Gilts can be caught on worm (Rag), but the bigger specimens will always go for Peeler and Razor baits .............. Cracking fish to catch, we do have pockets of them in Hampshire and West Sussex, not big mind up to around 3lb. Not forgetting there are some lumps in Portland Harbour. I wish we would see the bigger ones round here because boy do they scrap GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 14 minutes ago, Scotch_Egg2012 said: Cracking fish to catch, we do have pockets of them in Hampshire and West Sussex, not big mind up to around 3lb. Not forgetting there are some lumps in Portland Harbour. I wish we would see the bigger ones round here because boy do they scrap Locating areas where Gilts feed can be tricky, a good starting point in an estuary is where a creek meets the main river. Pound for Pound probably one of the hardest fighting fish in UK waters, I tell people to imagine the fight of a 3lb Gilt to be the same as a 6lb Wrasse on steroids ! Scotch_Egg2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Tuna Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Any fish that takes a lure and if it’s OTT even better and I’ve yet to catch a Dogfish on a lure.... Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ivan Tuna said: I’ve yet to catch a Dogfish on a lure.... Me neither. Challenge accepted! 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ivan Tuna said: I’ve yet to catch a Dogfish on a lure. I bet @Andy135 could do it 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: I bet @Andy135 could do it 😎 Like I said, challenge accepted. 😁 @Ivan Tuna, first one to catch a dogfish on a lure gets everlasting forum kudos. Loser buys the drinks. 🐶🎣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Andy135 said: Like I said, challenge accepted. 😁 @Ivan Tuna, first one to catch a dogfish on a lure gets everlasting forum kudos. Loser buys the drinks. 🐶🎣 Last year I caught a 3lb smoothound pup on Mack Feathers (tinsels) ! ........ hooked fair and square in the gob ............ Edited January 20, 2021 by GPSguru Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Andy135 said: Like I said, challenge accepted. 😁 @Ivan Tuna, first one to catch a dogfish on a lure gets everlasting forum kudos. Loser buys the drinks. 🐶🎣 winalot do you? GPSguru, JonC and Andy135 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 20, 2021 Author Share Posted January 20, 2021 6 hours ago, suzook12 said: winalot do you? I have an exceptional pedigree in that regard. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted January 20, 2021 Share Posted January 20, 2021 39 minutes ago, Andy135 said: I have an exceptional pedigree in that regard. Does loser have to buy the mixers as well? Your chum won't be happy if you beat him!! GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaicehunter Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 On 19/01/2021 at 7:09 PM, GPSguru said: Yes they are Gilts from the Tamar .................. the big identifier give away is the big black spot just behind the gill covers. We get Gilts in all our estuaries here, some bigger than others ........ in the Teign we max out at about 2lb, but other estuaries like the Yealm and the Erme fish of 5lb or more are not uncommon with the record standing at 12lb which came from (IIRC) the Salcombe estuary (Salcombe is not a true estuary it is a Ria). A terrifically hard fighting fish, where small strong hooks are a must, I generally use Sakuma Chinu Pattern hooks .............. bait is the key for these, small Gilts can be caught on worm (Rag), but the bigger specimens will always go for Peeler and Razor baits .............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaicehunter Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I agree with most of the above, though the best two from my boat last year (6lb and 7lb) fell to king rag on pennell rigs. In 2019 I also witnessed a bigger one caught on lugworm and lost a monster on lugworm myself. I check stomach contents of the few gilts I catch, and they always include crab remains, so I plan to fish live hardback crabs up to 50p size on one rod this year. Although they make very good eating, may I please ask for restraint? I personally fish to a slot size of 2lb-3lb, returning all larger and smaller gilts. It's particularly important to return the larger ones to preserve the prime breeding stock. PH Geoff, Andy135 and ever optimistic 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaicehunter Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, Plaicehunter said: I agree with most of the above, though the best two from my boat last year (6lb and 7lb) fell to king rag on pennell rigs. In 2019 I also witnessed a bigger one caught on lugworm and lost a monster on lugworm myself. I check stomach contents of the few gilts I keep and they always include crab remains, so I plan to fish live hardback crabs up to 50p size on one rod this year. Although they make very good eating, may I please ask for restraint? I personally fish to a slot size of 2lb-3lb, returning all larger and smaller gilts. It's particularly important to return the larger ones to preserve the prime breeding stock. PH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted February 13, 2021 Author Share Posted February 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, Plaicehunter said: I agree with most of the above, though the best two from my boat last year (6lb and 7lb) fell to king rag on pennell rigs. In 2019 I also witnessed a bigger one caught on lugworm and lost a monster on lugworm myself. I check stomach contents of the few gilts I catch, and they always include crab remains, so I plan to fish live hardback crabs up to 50p size on one rod this year. Although they make very good eating, may I please ask for restraint? I personally fish to a slot size of 2lb-3lb, returning all larger and smaller gilts. It's particularly important to return the larger ones to preserve the prime breeding stock. PH Good fishing PH. Personally I'm a fan of slot sizing. Makes so much sense: it balances the desire to take one for the pot with the need for conservation of the very large breeding individuals who can help to grow the average size of the gene pool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Plaicehunter said: I plan to fish live hardback crabs up to 50p size on one rod this year. I use hard backs for smooth hounds and find they normally sort out the bigger specimens. The plus side too is that they are free and found under most shore line rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 hmm favorite fish - tricky as i've only got back into shore fishing in the last 18 months and only just got a boat - I do enjoy mackerel on a simple metal lure and very light gear, Garfish on the the float are awesome fun, I used to love flatty bashing in the rivers..... going forward i'm looking forward to targeting plaice and bream, and bass on the lures. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuda4 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 I have a orginal 15LB Ugly stick so anything that puts a bend in that is great fun,also Bream on light tackle. Nearly lost the rod when this beauty hit it,must remember to always check the drag before sitting down for a brew🤣 Geoff and Andy135 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted February 22, 2021 Author Share Posted February 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Cuda4 said: I have a orginal 15LB Ugly stick so anything that puts a bend in that is great fun,also Bream on light tackle. Nearly lost the rod when this beauty hit it,must remember to always check the drag before sitting down for a brew🤣 Lovey fish! What did it take, bait-wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 @Cuda4 lovely bass. what was it, around 9-10lb? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuda4 Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Andy135 said: Lovey fish! What did it take, bait-wise? Fresh mackerel fillet 19 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: @Cuda4 lovely bass. what was it, around 9-10lb? Tipped just over 9lb on my scales,still waiting to catch one in double figures Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 19 minutes ago, Cuda4 said: Fresh mackerel fillet Tipped just over 9lb on my scales,still waiting to catch one in double figures My biggest was 10lb 8oz caught just off browndown beach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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