Odyssey Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 25 minutes ago, Gordmac said: Any thoughts on a Rodman 940? Nice boats. Good compromise of fishing and cruiser. Won’t fish many but you’ll do it in comfort! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Got any details of a particular boat? Or are you buying new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 @Gordmac not looking at this one are you? https://www.youboat.com/uk/d/motorboat/rodman/rodman-940/290345 If so, be very aware of the seller! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 £70k.... seems quite a bit for a boat of that age but hey that’s just me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Odyssey said: £70k.... seems quite a bit for a boat of that age but hey that’s just me No engine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 minute ago, JonC said: No engine? Why does it say hull only then go onto say twin Volvos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, JonC said: Why does it say hull only then go onto say twin Volvos? The guy that’s selling it is a proper tool. It’s no surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordmac Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 Not that one, I believe it has sold. I am looking at the one RBS marine, the importers, have. Poor galley but a good compromise between deck space and cabin space I think. Anyone know if the D4 225 engines have any particular issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gordmac said: Not that one, I believe it has sold. I am looking at the one RBS marine, the importers, have. Poor galley but a good compromise between deck space and cabin space I think. Anyone know if the D4 225 engines have any particular issues? I believe the D4 engine relies heavily on ECU’s. And these are particularly expensive if they go wrong. There are many reported issues with the D4, but tbh I think a lot of engines will have their own issues if not looked after properly. And let’s be honest, not all boaters are as careful with their motors as they should be. Just get a good engineer to check it over for you. If you need the number of a good guy down this way, PM me and I’ll supply you with one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) D4 good engines. Standard fitment on offshore 25s by breaksea boats. Given that Pete is building most of these for commercial guys I’d say pretty good. Obviously, only if maintained. Not a huge amount of cabin space, but I think you got more berths and an inside heads. I know that many call my boat a ferry but the internal layout is great. Ive seen a 940 take some heavy seas. I followed one coming back from sharking with a nice bit of swell running and it took it quite well. Edited December 22, 2020 by Odyssey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordmac Posted December 23, 2020 Author Share Posted December 23, 2020 Thanks. Being old I spent a lot of my youth fiddling with points, plugs and carbs on cars! Modern electronic stuff needs none of that and is much more efficient. The downside being if something electronic goes wrong it is hard to diagnose and costly to fix. Doesn't happen often, at least with cars. I haven't investigated, can you buy software to interrogate the Volvo stuff like you can with cars? I assume there will be people repairing the electronics? I may need someone to do a mechanical survey in the deep South sometime, thanks. What is your boat, Odyssey? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I’m running an Evolution 30. https://www.breakseaboats.com/gallery/nggallery/breaksea-boats/lady-jue-evolution-30-swansea When she was first commissioned by previous owner. As she is now... You can’t really see the fridge and TV which are currently opposite the table. TV will move into the V berth at some point, when I’m allowed back down there. ECU on an engine is better as you can plug in your laptop and get a readout of trouble code etc. It’s rare for an ECU to go.... injectors and turbos more likely due to diesel bug/incorrect servicing etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordmac Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 Nice looking boat, thanks. Not sure I could afford to look after two outdrives and engines though! Maybe not typical but friends Botnia on twins has been quite high maintenance so far. What engines are in her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 The recieved wisdom seems to be that outdrives are indeed high maintenance, and that owners skimp on maintenance at their peril. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, Andy135 said: The recieved wisdom seems to be that outdrives are indeed high maintenance, and that owners skimp on maintenance at their peril. I’ve read the same, great when they are working but high maintenance to keep up to speed. 6 hours to change a washer or something along those lines I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 My last 2 boats had outdrives, apart from changing a bearing carrier (a friend fitted the props back on and omitted the forward spacer, so it got badly worn) all mine needed was basic, yearly maintenance Will be expensive if/when things go south though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Gordmac said: Nice looking boat, thanks. Not sure I could afford to look after two outdrives and engines though! Maybe not typical but friends Botnia on twins has been quite high maintenance so far. What engines are in her? Outdrives are long gone. They were Yamaha outdrives. Known to be an issue. Mercruiser or Volvo and you’re onto a winner. Im currently running twin Yamaha 300hp outboards on the back. Legs have a bad reputation but I would be happy to have one (or two) as long as I knew they are serviced. If you leave an outboard gear box too long you’ll soon get issues. Same with a leg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 @Gordmac I’ve just re read this thread and I didn’t see a mention of budget? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordmac Posted February 7, 2021 Author Share Posted February 7, 2021 Budget around £60k. As I have some capital but a low income, running the boat comes from capital so for something cheaper to run I can spend more and vice versa. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 44 minutes ago, Gordmac said: Budget around £60k. As I have some capital but a low income, running the boat comes from capital so for something cheaper to run I can spend more and vice versa. And are you open to different styles or is the rodman style the preference? And are you prepared to travel? If so how far? Obviously UK only limits your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted February 7, 2021 Share Posted February 7, 2021 800 litre fuel tanks, so got good range. Great for entertaining, just small enough for single handed use and good for fishing too. https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/2003/starfisher-32-3539679/ https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/starfisher-840-for-sale/610934 https://www.apolloduck.co.uk/boat/aquastar-pacesetter-27-for-sale/647533 Now this is a lot of boat for not a lot of money. Well within budget and bullet proof engines on shafts. https://www.rightboat.com/gb/boats-for-sale/bimax/genesi-930/rb180595 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordmac Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Thanks for that. My preferred style would be Botnia Targa/Nordstar but rare and well over budget. Rodman seemed a reasonable option with walkaround decks and twin shafts about the same maintenance costs as single outdrive. They seem well thought of and decent quality. I will have to travel far, not much here and a South Coast round trip would be over 1000 mile. Problem is of course higher travel and delivery costs mean less to spend on a boat! The one in Spain would be near enough £80k with vat added. Starfisher 840 looks good although maybe a bit underpowered? Tiny cockpit in the Aquastar is not for me, been there before. Bimax looks like an open boat, not for me. Thanks for finding those. I suspect we won't be able to travel for quite a while yet so looking at anything is impossible! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 32 minutes ago, Gordmac said: Thanks for that. My preferred style would be Botnia Targa/Nordstar but rare and well over budget. Rodman seemed a reasonable option with walkaround decks and twin shafts about the same maintenance costs as single outdrive. They seem well thought of and decent quality. I will have to travel far, not much here and a South Coast round trip would be over 1000 mile. Problem is of course higher travel and delivery costs mean less to spend on a boat! The one in Spain would be near enough £80k with vat added. Starfisher 840 looks good although maybe a bit underpowered? Tiny cockpit in the Aquastar is not for me, been there before. Bimax looks like an open boat, not for me. Thanks for finding those. I suspect we won't be able to travel for quite a while yet so looking at anything is impossible! Ok that’s fine, the reason I showed those was just to get an idea. What your preferred style is and maybe show something you’ve not come across or thought about. Botnia tar gas can be had at your budget or around it but you’ll be looking at much older boats. What age is too old for you? As an example... https://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1990/targa-25-2997043/ @Andy135 has experience of purchasing from the channel isles if you need questions answered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 What about this one? https://www.findafishingboat.com/aquabell-33-mediterranean/ad-115808 Engines rebuilt on a shaft, ok interior may need a spruce up but still usuable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 34 minutes ago, Gordmac said: Starfisher 840 looks good although maybe a bit underpowered? I have a starfisher 840, for the hull it’s not underpowered. Mine does 24knts which is pretty good for a 4 tonne boat on a single shaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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