JonC Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Saintly Fish said: I don’t know I don’t drive a rescue boat Jon. 🤷🏻♂️ That’s because you don’t wear your pants on the outside! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, JonC said: That’s because you don’t wear your pants on the outside! You’re dragging this further and further of topic ( Sorry JonD) The rescue boat had to have one helm and one crew to operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaByte Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I've had my Suzuki DF70 from new, it's still got low hours, but I flush with Salt Away after each trip. JonC and Andy135 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 18 hours ago, JonC said: It is amazing to see how many of the older sailing members don’t attach the kill cord when at the helm. Anybody that does not wear a kill cord on an open boat is just asking for the day of judgement ! I always wear the kill cord and often it is 2 connected together as it gives me a bit of leeway to move around the boat and still stay connected. Also, it provides a spare in case one breaks (Merc cords have a habit of breaking the ring) ............... I don't wear it on the leg .......... I clip it to my LJ recovery loop............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 4 hours ago, GPSguru said: often it is 2 connected together as it gives me a bit of leeway to move around the boat Thanks for that statement Ian. Jon was so self involved that he thought I was having a pop at him. When I asked a serious question. I would think it’s always needed to move around the boat. Especially if you have to pull in a MOB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Thanks for that statement Ian. Jon was so self involved that he thought I was having a pop at him. When I asked a serious question. I would think it’s always needed to move around the boat. Especially if you have to pull in a MOB. Are you actually promoting going against RYA guidelines? Gps is an experienced operator of boats, others reading may not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, JonC said: Are you actually promoting going against RYA guidelines? Gps is an experienced operator of boats, others reading may not be. I’m not going against anything. I’m just backing up the fact that I asked a serious question. Like I said I don’t drive a rescue boat. So how am I supposed to know the guidelines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Just now, Saintly Fish said: I’m not going against anything. I’m just backing up the fact that I asked a serious question. Like I said I don’t drive a rescue boat. So how am I supposed to know the guidelines? It’s not rescue boat specific, it’s a universal guideline. GPS’ suggestion of clipping to a suitable securing point such as a lifting ring is a good idea, I guess the RYA say to attach around the leg is to avoid confusion over what is a suitable securing point, zips , belt loops, nose rings etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 I will sometimes put the kill switch leash around my leg, they get in the way to much when put around your wrist. I have seen cases here where people have put the leash around their wrist and accidentally disconnected it while crossing the bar, which has then ended by the boat getting caught out by the waves, ending in fatalities. JonC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, JDP said: I will sometimes put the kill switch leash around my leg, they get in the way to much when put around your wrist. I have seen cases here where people have put the leash around their wrist and accidentally disconnected it while crossing the bar, which has then ended by the boat getting caught out by the waves, ending in fatalities. When I asked Fisty he suggested this suzook12 and GPSguru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 5 hours ago, JonC said: Are you actually promoting going against RYA guidelines? Gps is an experienced operator of boats, others reading may not be. The RYA guidelines are exactly what is on the tin ........ Guidelines .............not mandatory, not a COP, just guidelines............ The bottom line is, and I say this to all open boat users............. 1. Wear a Kill cord ........ it will save your life and the lives of others 2. Make sure the kill cord is in good order, and the kill switch is tested at each annual service. 3. Make sure it is SECURELY fixed to the wearer, and the wearer will always be the helm 4. Make sure that it cannot get tangled and interfere with the safe operation of the boat A rescue / safety boat helm should never fail to wear a kill cord ............ and you have met that criteria 👍 JonC and Saintly Fish 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Well done Jon. At least you got something right in life👍🏻 JonC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) These guys had the safety line attached but even in these relatively calm conditions for our bar, when the boat got caught by a wave they accidentally pulled the release and after trying to start the engine with it disconnected ended up flooding the motor. This has happened numerous times with people accidentally disconnecting in this situation, hence why it placed around my leg is far better. By the way these were inexperienced boaters at crossing bars, which is obvious from the video. Edited December 10, 2020 by JDP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Can’t you just get someone to build you a nice marina? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 hours ago, JonC said: Can’t you just get someone to build you a nice marina? There is a marina but the river and lake are tidal and the east coast is exposed to swell almost all year round, hence why some parts of Oz are so well known for surf. We have a swell prediction for around 8m over the weekend for some parts of the coast, we can get large swell without any wind, unlike when I lived on the IOW where most of our rough sea conditions were due mostly to wind waves. Bar crossings here and New Zealand have a reputation of being quite dangerous. You can sometimes be far offshore experiencing beautiful conditions only to find the bar playing up when you return, which isn't fun after dark!!! This is why fast deep V hulls are so common, they help soften the ride and give you the speed to outrun bad weather or dash between waves when needed. Staying with a wave coming back in could mean running over 24 knots just to stay with it but you need a lot more than 24kts up your sleeve. I do enjoy coming in through it when its bad but heading out takes very careful timing and often holding the boat in reverse against a run out tide and big waves for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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