Saintly Fish Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I know for sure this has been covered by us before on the dark side. But not here. And tbh I’ve forgotten the reasons so I’ll ask again. what's the problem with priming and anti fouling a transducer ? and I mean using the same stuff you’d put on the hull. ive tried transducer specific stuff before and it just doesn’t work. So why not the real stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Something to do with impeding the sonar pings and returns I think, but to be fair I can't remember either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaByte Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 I use this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 15, 2021 Author Share Posted January 15, 2021 17 minutes ago, MegaByte said: I use this Does it actually work though Brian? And what primer do you use? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 That's what I use and have never had a problem although, I can't say if it works or not as the yard have usually jet washed the boat before I get there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 16, 2021 Author Share Posted January 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Maverick said: That's what I use and have never had a problem although, I can't say if it works or not as the yard have usually jet washed the boat before I get there Do you use a primer? If so which one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) No just 2 coats of echo on the transducer, their site says no primer. Echo transducer paint Edited January 16, 2021 by Maverick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaByte Posted January 16, 2021 Share Posted January 16, 2021 It's not brilliant, but reduces the growth, so better than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 18, 2021 Author Share Posted January 18, 2021 Can anybody see a potential problem using this kind of plastics primer before anti fouling the transducer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 Yes the Echo instructions say no primer just lightly abraid the plastic then stick it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 9 hours ago, Maverick said: Yes the Echo instructions say no primer just lightly abraid the plastic then stick it on. Yeah I’ve researched the echo fouler and it seems to be pants Martin. Most people saying how ineffective it is. That’s why I’m looking for a plastics primer I can use first then put normal AF on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordmac Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Why not use hull antifoul? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Gordmac said: Why not use hull antifoul? Well it’s been debated that standard anti foul eats the plastic of the transducer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I used to find someone who wanted a trip out, get them over the side to clean it for a free trip.... Geoff and GPSguru 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Odyssey said: I used to find someone who wanted a trip out, get them over the side to clean it for a free trip.... Yep, we used to do almost the same with the Bayliner Classic a few years ago. When we went out to the mooring on the dingy, the first job would be to tie onto the stern and clear the transducer of growth (mostly Mussels) and check the engine intake was clear. Geoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Well it’s been debated that standard anti foul eats the plastic of the transducer! What doe the manufacturer say about it ? Modern paints in general are much 'greener' then even a couple of years ago, so maybe the solvent and metallic content of antifoul is now much lower than it ever used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 18 minutes ago, GPSguru said: What doe the manufacturer say about it ? Modern paints in general are much 'greener' then even a couple of years ago, so maybe the solvent and metallic content of antifoul is now much lower than it ever used to be. Funnily enough I was just about to email Garmin! I will report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Funnily enough I was just about to email Garmin! I will report back. I would also be interested what the paint manufacturer has to say ..... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 Just now, GPSguru said: I would also be interested what the paint manufacturer has to say ..... ? Yes that’s a thought. I’ll email Hempel too! GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Not sure but I think its the metals in ordinary paints that interfere with the transducer signals. I would also be interested in what both the kit supplier and paint manufacturers have to say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 Found this in Garmin's Q&A Quote In certain environments, namely salt water, Garmin recommends painting the transducer with a water based, anti-fouling paint. Anti-fouling paint helps to hinder marine growth and maintain transducer performance. This also helps in boat maintenance by lowering the costs associated with hauling a boat for cleaning. Garmin recommends only using a water based, anti-fouling paint. Ketone-based paints should never be used. Ketone-based paints can weaken many plastics and possibly damage the transducer. Please note: Garmin does not recommend painting the paddlewheel portion or any moving parts of a transducer as this can cause restriction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 I've emailed Airmar too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 (edited) I’ll email my MP.... not sure why, I can’t think of anyone else to email and need to look busy like the rest of you.... 😬 Edited January 19, 2021 by Odyssey Spelling (again) GPSguru, Andy135, Scotch_Egg2012 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 38 minutes ago, Odyssey said: I’ll email my MP.... not sure why, I can’t think of anyone else to email and need to look busy like the rest of you.... 😬 You could be writing your next article.... “ how to drag up @headlight from the deep”!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: You could be writing your next article.... “ how to drag up @headlight from the deep”!! Surely no one has ever successfully landed a @headlight and lived to tell the tale?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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