Andy135 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-65649193 Clearly a difficult situation. Hoping it's not @thejollysinker or @GPSguru?? thejollysinker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyswamp Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 That doesn't sound good, hope the other person that was on board is found soon and safe 🤞 Geoff 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share Posted May 19, 2023 Just heard from @GPSguru. Thankfully it was not him or Gary, but unfortunately an acquaintance of theirs. More to come soon I'm sure when the cause is established. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Andy135 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-65649193 Clearly a difficult situation. Hoping it's not @thejollysinker or @GPSguru?? No, we are ok, but it is a good friend of ours. The boat was a 20ft Orkney (80hp honda). I was too far away (15 miles + into a head sea) when I heard the CG mayday relay. If it had been 45 mins earlier I was 5 miles away mack fishing. It sunk very quickly, but I don't know any more detail. From the co-ords given by the CG, It went down on the wreck of the Glocliffe, about 10 miles out. At 4:00pm 2LB, 1 plane, 1 chopper, an Mod boat, and 4others were still searching for the missing crew. ☹️ I’m devastated ! Edited May 19, 2023 by GPSguru Odyssey, Andy135, Geoff and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) Small update. The search has been called off, as to whether anything was found, I know not. edit: cleaning the boat and just heard an ‘all ships’ on 16 for one person missing, LJ unknown ☹️ I do know the alarm was raised by 999 call ( according to the original CG mayday relay) hence the mayday relay from the CG. However, I know that Peter has a radio and is comfortable using it as we have spoken many times. I have since heard the mayday was on 16, but I certainly never heard it 🤷♂️ My guess will be that the divers will go down tomorrow ☹️ 45 mins ealier and I would have right there for him ☹️ If you guys ever want to know where I am, just look up Bluefin on marine traffic, as the AIS is normally on. You should be able to see my today’s track. 👍 Edited May 19, 2023 by GPSguru thejollysinker and Saintly Fish 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejollysinker Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 It’s not Peter Cloke’s boat from exmouth is it? just going over things in my mind as I’m admin on Orkney Boat Owners UK and I met him in nov 2020 …. He has a Pilothouse 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, thejollysinker said: It’s not Peter Cloke’s boat from exmouth is it? just going over things in my mind as I’m admin on Orkney Boat Owners UK and I met him in nov 2020 …. He has a Pilothouse 🤔 Yes ...........Petrel (20ft Orkney Pilot House) I don't know who is unaccounted for, Peter, or his crewmate ? Edited May 20, 2023 by GPSguru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejollysinker Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 No doubt we’ll find out soon enough. A very sad day for the boating community but much worse for the families involved ☹️☹️☹️ Geoff and GPSguru 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejollysinker Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 On his way after we met, nice bloke 👌 Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, thejollysinker said: On his way after we met, nice bloke 👌 Apparently the MAIB are involved. I have a feeling that the divers will go down on it tomorrow. The position given at the time of Mayday from Petrel was the exact Co-Ords for the Glocliffe. https://www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/search-after-boat-sinks-devon-8455730 Edited May 20, 2023 by GPSguru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 How awful for all of you who knew them as well as the poor families too. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 How dreadful, no hobby should result in a loss of life Hoop, Saintly Fish, Geoff and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) ... Edited August 27, 2023 by GPSguru suzook12, Geoff, mick and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaByte Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I always wear my life jacket, crew have a choice, wear it or stay on land. GPSguru, thejollysinker and Geoff 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 As it was not a commercial vessel and there was no other vessel involved, the MAIB will not be investigating the sinking https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj70vd2ev4do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, JonC said: I haven’t read from the start, do we know what caused the boat to sink? Was there a collision with something? No collision, and flat calm sea. I suspect sea cock failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Odyssey Posted May 24, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2023 I’m sorry but that’s a bit of a poor show of the MAIB…. There is loss of life, lessons can be learned I’m sure for both commercial and leisure boats. On a more human level, I’m sure it would help the family to know what happened 😞 Malc, jonnyswamp, thejollysinker and 2 others 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 hours ago, JonC said: I thought it was an Orkney? Most of them are fitted with outboards? unless it was a deck wash or bait well intake. I know it’s a bit ghoulish speculating but it’s something that if we knew it could prevent it happening on another boat. Also worth mentioning that a decent working bilge pump should be fitted and regularly checked. And also a set of wooden bungs and a rubber mallet ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 5 hours ago, JonC said: I thought it was an Orkney? Most of them are fitted with outboards? unless it was a deck wash or bait well intake. I know it’s a bit ghoulish speculating but it’s something that if we knew it could prevent it happening on another boat. The deluxe versions were fitted with a sea toilet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Also worth mentioning that a decent working bilge pump should be fitted and regularly checked. And also a set of wooden bungs and a rubber mallet ! I thought Orkneys were fitted with a manual whale pump ? A lot of folk just don't realise the susceptibility of a seacock, and I suspect very few carry bungs, or have under deck water alarms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 hours ago, GPSguru said: The deluxe versions were fitted with a sea toilet. My old Orkney had a sea toilet. It had 2 seacocks. The sea toilet is up near the bow behind the helm. It also didn’t come with a manual bilge pump or any kind of bilge pump. I had to fit inspection hatches and fit manual bilge pump myself. If you’ve seen a seacock fail it’s scary…. The flow of water into the boat is large. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 On a slight tangent, I sometimes carry a BILGE PUMP on my kayak and they are cheap, pretty high output, and can be fitted with a hose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 2 hours ago, JonC said: These sort of things are ok for clearing water from a rogue wave or a one off but trying to pump against a hole in the boat is futile. I had a hand operated whale gushed on my old Colvic and it was slower than the boat itself. I think the bungs and mallet sounds like a good idea. Got to agree, I have used manual pumps and a bloody bucket is quicker ! My RIB hull is sealed to the outside world, so there is no hull drain plug on the outside of the hull. At the stern I have a sump and the main hull drain plug, drains into the sump, which is fitted with a Johnson 800GPH auto bilge pump. However, my main deck drainage is twin 4 inch elephant trunks, which have a flow capacity of 6000 L/min (1300 GPM, or to compare with a bilge pump the trunks are giving a minimum flow rate of 78,000 GPH !, but of course you need to be moving forward at any speed above 3kts for them to work. However, I have tried them and with 4 inches of water on the deck, the trunks emptied the boat in seconds, by moving at a speed. Under normal circumstances they would be used on the plane, after poor wave management and taking a 'stuffing' (I may or may not have done that). I even carry a 4 inch cork bung, just in case one of the hypalon trunks ever springs a leak. Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 9 hours ago, JonC said: I think the bungs and mallet sounds like a good idea. I have 1st hand experience of holes in hulls and I wasn't meaning to have the hand pump as a stand alone pump but as a failsafe method in case your pump fails and I know how good hammers and bungs are at slowing water ingress. Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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