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Hi All 

Hope your all well 

I am the owner of an Arvor 230as and a keen fisherman for over 40years

This is my 7th boat and best so far 

Our mooring is in Portsmouth and cover all the waters around the Isle of Wight 

This year we are going to target the sharks south of the Island

Any tips would be good 

Anybody done this and been successful please message me need all the help we can.

It won't be long now we can all get out on our boats and put Covid behind us.

Tight lines everyone for the new season 

Tony

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Hi Tony,

Welcome to the Outlaws. Lovely looking boat you have there - we have a growing number of Arvor owners on here so I'm sure you'll be in good company.

We also have a fair few members in the Pompey/Solent areas. I keep my boat in Gosport and I'm also looking to target threshers this season. I have a few drifts to try out, so you'd be welcome to buddy up and get out there together.

@Odyssey is our resident shark expert - I'm sure he'd be happy to share some tips. Check out his article on shark rigs here if you haven't already: https://www.offshoreoutlaws.co.uk/articles.html/articles/how-to-make-shark-rigs-r5/

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Hi Tony

welcome to the outlaws.

I’m from Southampton and fish the solent also. Glad to have you onboard. 
We have a small fishing meet organised for July, maybe if we don’t scare you off you’d be interested in joining in? 

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Welcome Tony, also based in Portsmouth and keep my boat in Gosport as well, not sure if Andy is including dog fish in his species of the shark family as his target fish of 2021.

I'm sure we may well see each other out there sometime.

Steve

 

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18 minutes ago, Cuda4 said:

not sure if Andy is including dog fish in his species of the shark family as his target fish of 2021.

Cheeky sod! 🤣 👍

 

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Welcome to the madhouse Tony. Nice looking boat you have there. My mate is looking to move his boat over sometime this year so maybe catch up with ya later in the year

 

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Hi Tony, welcome aboard. Your boat looks great, and living in Landlocked (I don't count the wash) Lincolnshire I am very jealous of all you lot that live near the cost. Your boat looks lovely, perhaps you will post it and a few more pictures in the show us yer boat section just to rub it in. tight lines. Geoff.:classic_wink:

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Just now, Cuda4 said:

What does that mean you've seen a picture of one😁

🤣 Now, let me explain. A while ago Andy went on a fishing trip with a mate of his who had a dodgy tach. During this trip he caught a small bullhus. Or so he excitedly thought. After a close examination of his proud photo, it was established that what @Andy135 had actually caught was.................. yep.............

A dog fish!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 

Hence Andy is now known as the dog fish master. 

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Just now, Saintly Fish said:

🤣 Now, let me explain. A while ago Andy went on a fishing trip with a mate of his who had a dodgy tach. During this trip he caught a small bullhus. Or so he excitedly thought. After a close examination of his proud photo, it was established that what @Andy135 had actually caught was.................. yep.............

A dog fish!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 

Hence Andy is now known as the dog fish master. 

Laugh??? Us??  Nooooooo

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3 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said:

🤣 Now, let me explain. A while ago Andy went on a fishing trip with a mate of his who had a dodgy tach. During this trip he caught a small bullhus. Or so he excitedly thought. After a close examination of his proud photo, it was established that what @Andy135 had actually caught was.................. yep.............

A dog fish!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 

Hence Andy is now known as the dog fish master. 

To be fair, it was Thomas (my son) who caught it, and to this day I am happy to let him believe that he's caught a bull huss still 🤣

But yes, there may have been a small case of mistaken identity somewhere... 😯😂

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I can understand your son being very excited, but who was holding it while the picture was taken and were you trying to steal all of the glory 🤣🤣

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4 minutes ago, Cuda4 said:

I can understand your son being very excited, but who was holding it while the picture was taken and were you trying to steal all of the glory 🤣🤣

I don’t remember his son being there. I recall it as just Andy and his 70’s porn star mate. Might just be my memory though. 

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Thanks for that 

Our boat is in Gosport as well 

Hardway to be exact

Great spot out from Portsmouth 

Love to Take the boat out with you mate 

More chum sent the better mate 

I am sure there's some big sharks out there 

And with the Tuna all up the English channel at the moment who knows what we could hook into 

Of course I will keep you all posted on what we catch 

Thanks buddy's 

Tony 

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5 minutes ago, Tony smith said:

Oh and by the way Dogfish can make a bad day good. 😩 better than a blank.👍

YES! A man after my own heart!!

Never has a fish been more welcome than a dogfish on a blank day. 🐶👍

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Welcome Tony. No longer living in that part of the world but used to live on the IOW and fished for may years targeting sharks from the island with good success. It was chasing sharks that brought me to moving to Australia. Still have plenty of old sharking buddies from over there, some head out this way when they want their arms truly stretched!!!!

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Back when I first started catching them we actually kept them for food or to sell. I do have pictures but they are of dead sharks and people become far to touchy about that sort of thing even though the sharks were used and not just dragged onboard for photos and most likely fatally injured before being tossed back. On a quick side note, shark is a popular fish for eating over here and sold as flake in fish and chip shops, mako and small bronze whalers being very popular on the target list due to their eating quality.

Sharks follow the bait to a certain point, so once you are well into mackerel season you should be trying. I was working on a boat where we hooked a good sized thresher mid winter cod fishing off the Needles many years ago. I also worked on trawlers at night back then and believe the thresher was there due to good numbers of large squid we were catching among the plaice and sole etc.

I have found threshers in quite shallow water at locations where I would catch pollack under the Tenison monument (white cliffs around the Needles to Freshwater bay). The areas I caught threshers around St Catherins and Ventnor have also been around the rough pinnacle ares where you find pollack.

Most of my porbeagles were simply around any good sized mackerel shoals. One day I hooked porbeagles one after another from about 2 mile out from the Needles keeping three for a restaurant order. Often there were porbeagles around mid channel wrecks too. Blues were further afield towards the channel islands.

I would expect the fact that so many of the big overseas trawlers are targeting mid water fish such as mackerel, herring and sprats etc that many sharks would be getting killed as bycatch. Also sharks are still heavily targeted by the Spanish and French longliners on their way up the coast during spring and summer.

I dont target them anymore but don't mind letting people have a crack at them in my boat or people I take shore fishing. Keeping the boat moving at a decent speed greatly reduces any chance of them bashing about at the side ion the boat and greatly improves the catch and release time. We were literally releasing sharks of around 300lb two weeks ago in under 15mins on using heavy spin gear. Boats targeting mako in the mako tournament will often tag over 20 mako from just one boat on a maximum of 15kg outfits (tournament maximum class), more points the lower the line class, so most fish 10kg. Back in my day's of sharking in the UK we never used the boat at all, everything was done from a stationary boat.

If you do hook tuna I would highly recommend using the boat to work the fish for a faster release. There is already to much poor publicity where people are posting what looks like exhausted fish alongside boats. We are lucky in the fact we can keep our tuna species and their not under threat here.

If you make any rigs yourself, make sure they can truly hold up. Holding a fish or shark alongside the boat for hook removal after its been fought for a long period is far different from handling healthy fish that are swimming alongside the boat, your gear will need to be able to take far more pressure than half dead fish. On some fish like marlin and broadbill we will use a lighter gauge circle which we can break the hooks if need be once a fish is tagged. 

Technology is far better than when I fished back there. Now I would be closely studying the bathymetric charts which most sounders have option of and also closely keeping an eye on water temperature charts (as I do here). http://www.fishtrack.com/fishing-charts/

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