Tony smith Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Hi All Hope your all well I am the owner of an Arvor 230as and a keen fisherman for over 40years This is my 7th boat and best so far Our mooring is in Portsmouth and cover all the waters around the Isle of Wight This year we are going to target the sharks south of the Island Any tips would be good Anybody done this and been successful please message me need all the help we can. It won't be long now we can all get out on our boats and put Covid behind us. Tight lines everyone for the new season Tony Andy135 and Scotch_Egg2012 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Hi Tony, Welcome to the Outlaws. Lovely looking boat you have there - we have a growing number of Arvor owners on here so I'm sure you'll be in good company. We also have a fair few members in the Pompey/Solent areas. I keep my boat in Gosport and I'm also looking to target threshers this season. I have a few drifts to try out, so you'd be welcome to buddy up and get out there together. @Odyssey is our resident shark expert - I'm sure he'd be happy to share some tips. Check out his article on shark rigs here if you haven't already: https://www.offshoreoutlaws.co.uk/articles.html/articles/how-to-make-shark-rigs-r5/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Hi Tony welcome to the outlaws. I’m from Southampton and fish the solent also. Glad to have you onboard. We have a small fishing meet organised for July, maybe if we don’t scare you off you’d be interested in joining in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuda4 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Welcome Tony, also based in Portsmouth and keep my boat in Gosport as well, not sure if Andy is including dog fish in his species of the shark family as his target fish of 2021. I'm sure we may well see each other out there sometime. Steve Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Cuda4 said: Andy is including dog fish in his species of the shark family It’s the only one he knows Steve! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, Cuda4 said: not sure if Andy is including dog fish in his species of the shark family as his target fish of 2021. Cheeky sod! 🤣 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 18 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: It’s the only one he knows Steve! Not true - I know all about bull huss too.... 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Andy135 said: Not true - I know all about bull huss too.... 😁 HA !!!! 🤣🤣 Not if my memory serves me right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Welcome to the madhouse Tony. Nice looking boat you have there. My mate is looking to move his boat over sometime this year so maybe catch up with ya later in the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Hi Tony, welcome aboard. Your boat looks great, and living in Landlocked (I don't count the wash) Lincolnshire I am very jealous of all you lot that live near the cost. Your boat looks lovely, perhaps you will post it and a few more pictures in the show us yer boat section just to rub it in. tight lines. Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuda4 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Andy135 said: Not true - I know all about bull huss too.... 😁 What does that mean you've seen a picture of one😁 Andy135 and Geoff 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, Cuda4 said: What does that mean you've seen a picture of one😁 🤣 Now, let me explain. A while ago Andy went on a fishing trip with a mate of his who had a dodgy tach. During this trip he caught a small bullhus. Or so he excitedly thought. After a close examination of his proud photo, it was established that what @Andy135 had actually caught was.................. yep............. A dog fish!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hence Andy is now known as the dog fish master. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Just now, Saintly Fish said: 🤣 Now, let me explain. A while ago Andy went on a fishing trip with a mate of his who had a dodgy tach. During this trip he caught a small bullhus. Or so he excitedly thought. After a close examination of his proud photo, it was established that what @Andy135 had actually caught was.................. yep............. A dog fish!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hence Andy is now known as the dog fish master. Laugh??? Us?? Nooooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: 🤣 Now, let me explain. A while ago Andy went on a fishing trip with a mate of his who had a dodgy tach. During this trip he caught a small bullhus. Or so he excitedly thought. After a close examination of his proud photo, it was established that what @Andy135 had actually caught was.................. yep............. A dog fish!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Hence Andy is now known as the dog fish master. To be fair, it was Thomas (my son) who caught it, and to this day I am happy to let him believe that he's caught a bull huss still 🤣 But yes, there may have been a small case of mistaken identity somewhere... 😯😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuda4 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 I can understand your son being very excited, but who was holding it while the picture was taken and were you trying to steal all of the glory 🤣🤣 Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cuda4 said: I can understand your son being very excited, but who was holding it while the picture was taken and were you trying to steal all of the glory 🤣🤣 I don’t remember his son being there. I recall it as just Andy and his 70’s porn star mate. Might just be my memory though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike farrants Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 welcome Tony! looking forward to hearing what you hook into out the back of the island! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony smith Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Thanks for that Our boat is in Gosport as well Hardway to be exact Great spot out from Portsmouth Love to Take the boat out with you mate More chum sent the better mate I am sure there's some big sharks out there And with the Tuna all up the English channel at the moment who knows what we could hook into Of course I will keep you all posted on what we catch Thanks buddy's Tony Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony smith Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 Oh and by the way Dogfish can make a bad day good. 😩 better than a blank.👍 Geoff, JDP, Andy135 and 3 others 2 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, Tony smith said: Oh and by the way Dogfish can make a bad day good. 😩 better than a blank.👍 YES! A man after my own heart!! Never has a fish been more welcome than a dogfish on a blank day. 🐶👍 Cuda4 and JDP 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Welcome Tony. No longer living in that part of the world but used to live on the IOW and fished for may years targeting sharks from the island with good success. It was chasing sharks that brought me to moving to Australia. Still have plenty of old sharking buddies from over there, some head out this way when they want their arms truly stretched!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony smith Posted March 27, 2021 Author Share Posted March 27, 2021 Hi JPD Thanks for that What the best months over here for them How far out did you fish for them Any pictures would be good Thanks for that again Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Back when I first started catching them we actually kept them for food or to sell. I do have pictures but they are of dead sharks and people become far to touchy about that sort of thing even though the sharks were used and not just dragged onboard for photos and most likely fatally injured before being tossed back. On a quick side note, shark is a popular fish for eating over here and sold as flake in fish and chip shops, mako and small bronze whalers being very popular on the target list due to their eating quality. Sharks follow the bait to a certain point, so once you are well into mackerel season you should be trying. I was working on a boat where we hooked a good sized thresher mid winter cod fishing off the Needles many years ago. I also worked on trawlers at night back then and believe the thresher was there due to good numbers of large squid we were catching among the plaice and sole etc. I have found threshers in quite shallow water at locations where I would catch pollack under the Tenison monument (white cliffs around the Needles to Freshwater bay). The areas I caught threshers around St Catherins and Ventnor have also been around the rough pinnacle ares where you find pollack. Most of my porbeagles were simply around any good sized mackerel shoals. One day I hooked porbeagles one after another from about 2 mile out from the Needles keeping three for a restaurant order. Often there were porbeagles around mid channel wrecks too. Blues were further afield towards the channel islands. I would expect the fact that so many of the big overseas trawlers are targeting mid water fish such as mackerel, herring and sprats etc that many sharks would be getting killed as bycatch. Also sharks are still heavily targeted by the Spanish and French longliners on their way up the coast during spring and summer. I dont target them anymore but don't mind letting people have a crack at them in my boat or people I take shore fishing. Keeping the boat moving at a decent speed greatly reduces any chance of them bashing about at the side ion the boat and greatly improves the catch and release time. We were literally releasing sharks of around 300lb two weeks ago in under 15mins on using heavy spin gear. Boats targeting mako in the mako tournament will often tag over 20 mako from just one boat on a maximum of 15kg outfits (tournament maximum class), more points the lower the line class, so most fish 10kg. Back in my day's of sharking in the UK we never used the boat at all, everything was done from a stationary boat. If you do hook tuna I would highly recommend using the boat to work the fish for a faster release. There is already to much poor publicity where people are posting what looks like exhausted fish alongside boats. We are lucky in the fact we can keep our tuna species and their not under threat here. If you make any rigs yourself, make sure they can truly hold up. Holding a fish or shark alongside the boat for hook removal after its been fought for a long period is far different from handling healthy fish that are swimming alongside the boat, your gear will need to be able to take far more pressure than half dead fish. On some fish like marlin and broadbill we will use a lighter gauge circle which we can break the hooks if need be once a fish is tagged. Technology is far better than when I fished back there. Now I would be closely studying the bathymetric charts which most sounders have option of and also closely keeping an eye on water temperature charts (as I do here). http://www.fishtrack.com/fishing-charts/ Tony smith and suzook12 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony smith Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 Thanks JDP Great read mate Thanks for that Can't wait to get out there now👍 JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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