Andy135 Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 https://www.worldanimalprotection.org.uk/news/success-animal-sentience-recognised-in-uk-law How long before legislation such as this is directed at C&R / sport fishing...? Or even a ban on live baiting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 9, 2021 Share Posted May 9, 2021 15 minutes ago, Andy135 said: https://www.worldanimalprotection.org.uk/news/success-animal-sentience-recognised-in-uk-law How long before legislation such as this is directed at C&R / sport fishing...? Or even a ban on live baiting? 3 days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captin slows old outlaw Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 so are we all going vigan. stop wearing leather. i dont think so some how. i rember some thing on the net some time ago , that plants can feal too, aprently recorded a rose screaming when it was cut i thought it was a bit far feached at the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 38 minutes ago, captin slows old outlaw said: so are we all going vigan. stop wearing leather. i dont think so some how. i rember some thing on the net some time ago , that plants can feal too, aprently recorded a rose screaming when it was cut i thought it was a bit far feached at the time. Oh that’s wonderful. You can remember a fact about a plants feelings but you can’t remember my name!! I got feelings too you know! 🤯 GPSguru and Andy135 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Tuna Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 On 5/9/2021 at 9:29 AM, Andy135 said: https://www.worldanimalprotection.org.uk/news/success-animal-sentience-recognised-in-uk-law How long before legislation such as this is directed at C&R / sport fishing...? Or even a ban on live baiting? That’s you stuffed.....I mean Dogfish....fisherman’s bast friend Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 For sale, 2 mouse traps and one rat trap. Quick sale!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captin slows old outlaw Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 20 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Oh that’s wonderful. You can remember a fact about a plants feelings but you can’t remember my name!! I got feelings too you know! 🤯 i am so sorry , please forgive me. john eer i mean neal or s/f GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 Pete I thought you said his name was Ian? I'm definitely confused now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 (edited) On 5/9/2021 at 9:29 AM, Andy135 said: https://www.worldanimalprotection.org.uk/news/success-animal-sentience-recognised-in-uk-law How long before legislation such as this is directed at C&R / sport fishing...? Or even a ban on live baiting? Is this not do do with the Lisbon treaty that we pulled out of when we binned Brussels ? Right now I really don't think it will effect fishing. useless Eustice is a proper twat, but a dangerous one. Remember when he was fisheries minister, if the commercial said jump, he answered with ‘how high’ Edited May 11, 2021 by GPSguru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 Yes. This legislation is directed towards ensuring animal sentience and welfare is respected in any and all future legislation, replacing in UK law the Lisbon treaty, but the fact that it's on the radar of lobbyists and legislators means that any future lobbying activity on, say fishing, hunting and shooting, could attempt to invoke this legislation to give a veneer of legitimacy to their calls for a ban on the same. The below is taken from the article in the link I posted in the OP. Leaving the EU without recognising sentience would make animals vulnerable to the government creating new laws, policies or trade deals that do not take animals’ welfare needs into account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 50 minutes ago, Andy135 said: Yes. This legislation is directed towards ensuring animal sentience and welfare is respected in any and all future legislation, replacing in UK law the Lisbon treaty, but the fact that it's on the radar of lobbyists and legislators means that any future lobbying activity on, say fishing, hunting and shooting, could attempt to invoke this legislation to give a veneer of legitimacy to their calls for a ban on the same. The below is taken from the article in the link I posted in the OP. Leaving the EU without recognising sentience would make animals vulnerable to the government creating new laws, policies or trade deals that do not take animals’ welfare needs into account. To stop recreational fishing then commercial fishing would also have to cease, and that is never going to happen. However, I can see your point that the extreme bunny huggers like Packham et al will try and manipulate this sort of legislation to suit their own agenda, but generally I think any attempt in that arena will be largely unsuccessful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted May 11, 2021 Share Posted May 11, 2021 That would be fully hypocritcal in a country that still allows the sale of halal meat!! JDP, Geoff and GPSguru 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 14 hours ago, suzook12 said: That would be fully hypocritcal in a country that still allows the sale of halal meat!! It is much worse than that as I understand that some schools have chosen the halal meat only route. Geoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Geoff said: It is much worse than that as I understand that some schools have chosen the halal meat only route. Geoff. Slowly but surely we are being turned into a backward nation under the guise of pc correctness. Maybe we ought to make angling a religion now so when it does all kick off we can obseve the same protections as other religions seem to receive.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, suzook12 said: Slowly but surely we are being turned into a backward nation under the guise of pc correctness. Maybe we ought to make angling a religion now so when it does all kick off we can obseve the same protections as other religions seem to receive.... Angling a religion you say? I already worship the Dogfish. We could call ourselves Doggers.... oh, wait.... suzook12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Andy135 said: Angling a religion you say? I already worship the Dogfish. We could call ourselves Doggers.... oh, wait.... If you look at crap sorry, carp fisherman they do give their quarry a god-like status..... Im not sure the humble Dogfish will get such a following but you never know 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 12, 2021 Author Share Posted May 12, 2021 Just now, Odyssey said: If you look at crap sorry, carp fisherman they do give their quarry a god-like status..... Im not sure the humble Dogfish will get such a following but you never know 🤣 Well, I've given every single one of my dogfish a name... does that count?? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted May 12, 2021 Share Posted May 12, 2021 6 hours ago, Andy135 said: Well, I've given every single one of my dogfish a name... does that count?? 🤣 I only give them 2 names .......... Kin A'hole and lobbit Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 7 hours ago, GPSguru said: I only give them 2 names .......... Kin A'hole and lobbit They get on from me..... kin animated turd! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 They say you can tell a lot about a man by how he treats his dogs...... Frankly, I find some of you guys are disturbed!! Very disturbed!!! 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 59 minutes ago, suzook12 said: They say you can tell a lot about a man by how he treats his dogs...... Frankly, I find some of you guys are disturbed!! Very disturbed!!! 🤣 Don't tar me with the same brush as the rest Zook! Dogfish get nothing but love from me. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, Andy135 said: Don't tar me with the same brush as the rest Zook! Dogfish get nothing but love from me. Wait... that came out wrong! 🤣 GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 57 minutes ago, suzook12 said: They say you can tell a lot about a man by how he treats his dogs...... Frankly, I find some of you guys are disturbed!! Very disturbed!!! 🤣 Wonder how the fluffy huggers feel about humans breeding pets for our own pleasure. Things like selective breeding to produce the likes of the British bulldog. Could it also mean the end to pets, after all there are so many reasons to ban them, not to mention the environmental cost in producing pet food. Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 47 minutes ago, JDP said: Wonder how the fluffy huggers feel about humans breeding pets for our own pleasure. Things like selective breeding to produce the likes of the British bulldog. Could it also mean the end to pets, after all there are so many reasons to ban them, not to mention the environmental cost in producing pet food. There was a guy on the morning news last week who was saying just that Jon. That we should all give up our pets because they are bad for the environment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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