Recommend me a hook length.

[Saintly Fish]

After baiting up 5/6 times I find my hook lengths start to look like this after the top hook is wound on 4 times..

This is 100lb Rovex line. Its a bit annoying. So what do you guys use ?

[suzook12]

silicon sleeve to locate the top hook.

I don't often get to use snoods that heavy, generally use amnesia

[jonnyswamp]

40/60lb Amnesia and silicon tube or tie the top hook in place

The tied method is ok if you're using the same length/size bait. silicon tube if you're trying various baits

But to be honest, I usually use the same method as you, a few wraps around the top hook shank

After a few trips the line is usually fraying and needs to be replaced anyway

Especially after a couple of Rays or Smoothies

 

[Odyssey]

80-100lb snood, change after 2-3 trips. By then it’s been munched by hounds/conger/rays it’ll need changing 🙂 

[suzook12]

Is it our lack of conger, generally fish 20lb snood, 50lb main body?

[GPSguru]

Generally I only fish pennels on hook lengths up to about 40lb. These snoods will generally be memory free like amnesia, blackout, etc. I have never been bitten off at 40lb with Rays, or Hounds.

On heavy hook lengths for Conger (we don't get Tope) I tend to use a larger single hook (10/0).

 

[Saintly Fish]

This is for a pennel rig for cod, 3-4 large squid. 100lb minimum strength for the teeth, but want a line that won't twist like the photo after 3-4 goes. Large baits need a top hook. 

[GPSguru]

44 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said:

This is for a pennel rig for cod, 3-4 large squid. 100lb minimum strength for the teeth, but want a line that won't twist like the photo after 3-4 goes. Large baits need a top hook. 

We use 50lb FC for Cod, and I have never been bitten off.

[Saintly Fish]

Well seeing as a 100lb line wasn't forth coming in your recommendations, I'm going to give the tronixpro xenon a try. 
anyone ever used it?

[suzook12]

8 hours ago, Saintly Fish said:

 100lb minimum strength

That coulod be your blanks right there

[Saintly Fish]

7 minutes ago, suzook12 said:

That coulod be your blanks right there

Well seeing as my 40lb amnesia trace was bitten off last Friday, it's obviously not tough enough. So stronger it has to be. 

[Scotch_Egg2012]

Sakuma 80lb shock leader round here due to the stupid amount of Eels.  It's quite a supple line so doesn't twist up quite so easy. 

I usually have 15 hook lengths pre tied so if one ends up like that I unclip and use a new one. 

If it gets stupid for Eels (the spoils can be like that) I go over to nylon coated wire which strangely doesn't suffer twisting up so much and means you aren't replacing hook length every cast

Edited October 18, 2021 by Scotch_Egg2012

[Odyssey]

80lb Sakuma works well…

for me it depends on what’s available on the boat…. However Bristol Channel is so murky it’s maybe less of an issue for us.

[captin slows old outlaw]

 

 

i change the hook  line when it starts to look a bit chewed (on the  big hook 50 or 100 lb line  ) the 15 lb line  i cut off and use the hook again after every trip

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[suzook12]

11 hours ago, Saintly Fish said:

Well seeing as my 40lb amnesia trace was bitten off last Friday, it's obviously not tough enough. So stronger it has to be. 

Guess it was one of them sea snakes then, not a cod

[Saintly Fish]

3 minutes ago, suzook12 said:

Guess it was one of them sea snakes then, not a cod

No definitely not a snake. The fight was too lazy. 

[suzook12]

3 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said:

No definitely not a snake. The fight was too lazy. 

I've never been bitten off by a cod, nor know anyone that has. So it's a mystery

 

[Saintly Fish]

3 minutes ago, suzook12 said:

I've never been bitten off by a cod, nor know anyone that has. So it's a mystery

 

Well @GPSguru reckons a cuttle fish? Even if it was a cuttle I'd still want tougher line to stand a chance of landing the next one. You do know though that cod have teeth? 

[Saintly Fish]

https://www.seaangler.co.uk/fishing-tips/species/know-your-fish-cod/

[suzook12]

3 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said:

Well @GPSguru reckons a cuttle fish? Even if it was a cuttle I'd still want tougher line to stand a chance of landing the next one. You do know though that cod have teeth? 

Yep, not too sharp tho, bit like whiting, don't need to be worried about getting your finger ripped while unhooking

 

[Saintly Fish]

22 minutes ago, suzook12 said:

Yep, not too sharp tho, bit like whiting, don't need to be worried about getting your finger ripped while unhooking

 

Sharp enough for my soft hands. 

[Geoff]

2 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said:

Sharp enough for my soft hands. 

That's just the fairy in you. Geoff.

[GPSguru]

3 hours ago, Saintly Fish said:

You do know though that cod have teeth? 

Similar teeth to a Pollock, and we catch plenty of doubles on the wrecks with a 25lb FC  snood.

 

[Saintly Fish]

36 minutes ago, GPSguru said:

Similar teeth to a Pollock, and we catch plenty of doubles on the wrecks with a 25lb FC  snood.

 

I'm not arguing the fact that their teeth may be small. But something bit me off so I need a strong hook length. 
 

[GPSguru]

11 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said:

But something bit me off so I need a strong hook length. 

How many times have you been bitten off in your fishing career ?

I have been 'bitten off' a few times over the wrecks and most times that would be an unexpected Ling, once 'bitten off' we beefed up the tackle and went on to catch Ling !