JDP Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 This is the outboard dealer just up the road from me. A fella thought he was onto a good deal when he recently bought this little boat with just 60hrs on the engine. Said it before I would rather buy an outboard that's been used regularly even with very high hours over ones that sit around for years with salt left in the cooling system. I know there are those who don't flush and will argue its not needed but the proof is in the pudding. Ive had a 2014 suzuki that was pretty bad like this, which had had the anodes changed three times in its 240hr life but was totally blocked throughout the cooling chambers and no anodes left apart from the top of the bolts. Not sure if you guys will be able to open it as its on the their Facebook page as a video. https://www.facebook.com/Batemans-Bay-Power-and-Sail-349326758505348/ suzook12 and Andy135 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 Wow! That's pretty serious Jon. Thanks for sharing. [sidles off to flush outboard] JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I’ve often told people that low hours can be bad and signal neglect but people can’t get their heads around it. JDP and GPSguru 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 That head was repairable tho, just need to find the right place and be prepared to wait..... Might cost similar too mind. Expensive lesson that, thats where a sea trial would have come in..... My lesson to the introduction of boats was transom checks and other woodwork.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, suzook12 said: That head was repairable tho, just need to find the right place and be prepared to wait..... Might cost similar too mind. Expensive lesson that, thats where a sea trial would have come in..... My lesson to the introduction of boats was transom checks and other woodwork.... Rotten transom and stringers is another hard to find thing when buying. Ive had boats that seem rock solid but when you drill a hole for a transducer and find black wet wood and water trickling out you know you have a mighty bill ahead. Makes you appreciate the simple life of beach fishing!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Ouch…. Any tips on how to flush on a pontoon? 😬😬😬😬 when I was in Cardiff it’s ok as engine is hot and it’s freshwater in the bay so gets a good clean. But in Milford it’s salt water marina… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Odyssey said: Ouch…. Any tips on how to flush on a pontoon? 😬😬😬😬 when I was in Cardiff it’s ok as engine is hot and it’s freshwater in the bay so gets a good clean. But in Milford it’s salt water marina… Do your engines not have a hose lock type connection point for flushing?? My Suzuki and Mercury engines both did. You just don't run the engine whilst doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaByte Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) I'm on a pontoon, there's a fresh water tap nearby and I use the flushing port on the engine. I flush with Salt Away every trip. https://oceanfootprint.co.uk/product/salt-away-946ml-concentrate-inc-mixer/ Edited March 18, 2022 by MegaByte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: Do your engines not have a hose lock type connection point for flushing?? My Suzuki and Mercury engines both did. You just don't run the engine whilst doing it. I don’t know…. Nothing obvious that I can see… now it’s 12 months down there I’ll do some looking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Turns out I’m already doing it 🤣🤣 I do this a few times a summer season… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Odyssey said: Turns out I’m already doing it 🤣🤣 I do this a few times a summer season… Well I'd have been surprised if a smart cookie like you didn't know how to flush his own expensive outboards. I used to do mine religiously after every trip. Even if going out the next day. It only takes 10 minutes so what's the point in not doing it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted March 19, 2022 Author Share Posted March 19, 2022 Just remember with those engine flush connections where the engine is flushed without run ing the engine that these don't do a full flush on most engines and you can't use these with the engine running either with most makes of outboard. To flush the full cooling system the engine has to warm to a certain temperature before the thermostat opens to allow water to pump through the entire cooling system. There are flushing systems for both petrol and diesel engines where the boats can be flushed with the likes of salt-away without the need for freshwater connecting. suzook12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaByte Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I spoke to Suzuki and they told me that using the flushing port for 10 minutes flushes the entire system as there is a small bypass so the head gets flushed even when the thermostat is closed. Saintly Fish and Adam 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 44 minutes ago, MegaByte said: I spoke to Suzuki and they told me that using the flushing port for 10 minutes flushes the entire system as there is a small bypass so the head gets flushed even when the thermostat is closed. Same here, I was told the same by the mechanic who serviced mine. Same with the Mercury. #afewtumanysames Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 48 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: Same here, I was told the same by the mechanic who serviced mine. Same with the Mercury. #afewtumanysames Maybe they would say that, otherwise they would be admitting that their design was poorly thought out. JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, JonC said: Maybe they would say that, otherwise they would be admitting that their design was poorly thought out. You cynic. MegaByte 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 59 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: You cynic. Not a cynic, I’m just used to hearing fibs Saintly Fish and JDP 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 4 hours ago, JonC said: Not a cynic, I’m just used to hearing fibs Well I guess In The marine scene it's a given by most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 9 hours ago, JonC said: Not a cynic, I’m just used to hearing fibs Your subbie not turned up for work again then? 🤥🤥 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 11 hours ago, JonC said: Not a cynic, I’m just used to telling fibs. FTFY Jon Geoff.. 😉 Saintly Fish, Andy135 and suzook12 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted March 20, 2022 Author Share Posted March 20, 2022 16 hours ago, MegaByte said: I spoke to Suzuki and they told me that using the flushing port for 10 minutes flushes the entire system as there is a small bypass so the head gets flushed even when the thermostat is closed. The 140 suzuki I had which had been flushed off the flushing port was totally blocked in the cooling chamber which was because of not flushing using the muffs with the engine running according to the suzuki mechanic I used. Maybe they have changed with newer models but as far I was aware it was only newer mercury engines that did this. Ive had three Suzukis now on used boats Ive ownedt but wouldn't choose one to put on a boat from new. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 On 3/19/2022 at 11:53 AM, JonC said: Not a cynic, I’m just used to hearing fibs I was told by the Mercury UK (Barrus), only to use the flushing port as a last resort ! Flushing with muffs was the much preferred option, and mine is flushed for 5 mins after each trip. JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 as our Rib is kept on a trailer we flush and use salt-away after every trip, have done same on all our engines . JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDP Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 2 hours ago, mick said: as our Rib is kept on a trailer we flush and use salt-away after every trip, have done same on all our engines . Ever had any corrosion issues ? Ive only had issues from engines not flushed with it, also keeps the trailer in good condition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mick Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) never had a problem but never taken engine apart ,don`t use it on trailer. Edited March 23, 2022 by mick JDP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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