Saintly Fish Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 What’s best for the installation of a new radome? A strut or an arch? And why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Without the technical details that I like to gloss over I think an arch is more practical as it’s multipurpose, but a strut looks far sleeker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzook12 Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 An Arch spreads the weight better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 @GPSguru you got any thoughts on this Ian? Also why are some struts angled and some straight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: @GPSguru you got any thoughts on this Ian? Also why are some struts angled and some straight? He’s probably still watching the jelly wrestling clips GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Making himself sore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 The higher your radar the better. This will mean that you see further ahead with less near field interference. An arch allows you to get it higher above your cabin etc. It’s also a useful area to add nav lights, anchor lights, etc GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, Odyssey said: The higher your radar the better. This will mean that you see further ahead with less near field interference. An arch allows you to get it higher above your cabin etc. It’s also a useful area to add nav lights, anchor lights, etc My anchor light is installed at the front of the wheelhouse roof. The radome will need to be at the back. Probably on a 6” strut. Will this pick up the anchor light or is it too small? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 How high is your anchor light? You ideally want a clear field of view. Go for an arch, get some rod holders in there too 🙂 great for travelling as keeps rods out the way. However, if you’re on the shorter side you need to ask the skipper to get your rods down ( @headlight 😉 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Saintly Fish said: @GPSguru you got any thoughts on this Ian? Also why are some struts angled and some straight? I saw this, but I guess it comes down to personal preference ............ A raked back strut always looks better on larger boats such as yours, however an arch is more practical and probably a lot stronger .................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 hours ago, JonC said: He’s probably still watching the jelly wrestling clips Nah, Jon ........ does nothing for me ............ I have been too feck'in busy trying to work out how to get my international orders out of the UK, but it looks like it will be resolved in the next few days and mail flights will start again ......... it takes time to write grovelling emails to all my overseas customers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, GPSguru said: I saw this, but I guess it comes down to personal preference ............ A raked back strut always looks better on larger boats such as yours, however an arch is more practical and probably a lot stronger .................... I’m not sure I agree on a strut looking good... give me a good arch any day. Got to love a nice bit of shiny stainless 😁😁😁😁😁😁 @Saintly Fish if you’re forking out for Radar, spend a few more ££, get an arch and get your refector integrated into it as well 🙂 Maybe add a flagpole and get done flags up there too 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 22, 2020 Author Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Odyssey said: I’m not sure I agree on a strut looking good... give me a good arch any day. Got to love a nice bit of shiny stainless 😁😁😁😁😁😁 @Saintly Fish if you’re forking out for Radar, spend a few more ££, get an arch and get your refector integrated into it as well 🙂 Maybe add a flagpole and get done flags up there too 😉 I don’t want an arch as it will ruin the lines of my boat. I prefer the look of a strut but just wondered if there was an advantage over either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I’d of fitted an arch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 22 minutes ago, JonC said: I’d of fitted an arch That will probably be enough to convince Neil to fit an a strut. Geoff.☺️ Andy135 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Geoff said: That will probably be enough to convince Neil to fit an a strut. Geoff.☺️ He always was a contrary bugger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, Geoff said: That will probably be enough to convince Neil to fit an a strut. Geoff.☺️ Exactly, it’s the reverse psychology thing . Works on kids and my dogs so I figured it would work on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GPSguru Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Saintly Fish said: I don’t want an arch as it will ruin the lines of my boat. I prefer the look of a strut but just wondered if there was an advantage over either. Agreed, an angled strut looks more in keeping with the aesthetics of a larger sports boat. However, an arch is more practical for a fishing boat. To fit an angled strut you might have the strengthen the cabin roof, not rocket science, just more work ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, GPSguru said: Agreed, an angled strut looks more in keeping with the aesthetics of a larger sports boat. However, an arch is more practical for a fishing boat. To fit an angled strut you might have the strengthen the cabin roof, not rocket science, just more work ! A guy in my marina I know fitted one on a merry 755 he had to reinforce his roof. I think it was just a plate underneath no serious re engineering. If I was starting from scratch I would fit an arch and put all my crap up there but Fisty already has everything in place so no mileage in moving everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch_Egg2012 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Arch all day long 😁 allows you to fit GPS aerials etc I made the frame under the main radar arch and because I hate drilling holes in the roof I attached onto the roof hand rails, arch was by Echomax made to fit a reflector on top of the radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Looks great 🙂 If you sell your boat can take it all with you 🙂 Scotch_Egg2012 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 So going forward with a strut.. is a 6” strut enough to give the radome clearance to shoot over the bow when it rises? Would I need a wedge to level off the radome to stop it pointing to the clouds or can I adjust the offset of the signal? Hope that makes sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 19 minutes ago, Saintly Fish said: So going forward with a strut.. is a 6” strut enough to give the radome clearance to shoot over the bow when it rises? Would I need a wedge to level off the radome to stop it pointing to the clouds or can I adjust the offset of the signal? Hope that makes sense! In the spec for your radar scanner it will show the angle of the cone shape beam that comes out of it. Try to find a scale drawing of your boat a d work from there Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted January 30, 2021 Author Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 hours ago, JonC said: In the spec for your radar scanner it will show the angle of the cone shape beam that comes out of it. Try to find a scale drawing of your boat a d work from there https://static.garmin.com/pumac/GMR_18_24_xHD_Install_EN-US.pdf how am I supposed to know the angle of the bow when under way though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordmac Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Measure it? I think you can get a spirit level type app for a phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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