Andy135 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, JonC said: I heard v tech were problematic though? Anyone know about them? I can't say I've heard anything bad about the V-Tec system. Like any outboard they'll need regular servicing to keep them running smoothly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Andy135 said: I can't say I've heard anything bad about the V-Tec system. Like any outboard they'll need regular servicing to keep them running smoothly. I may have dreamed that then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon cook Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Aren't them meant to slam quite abit. Been advised against, but appreciate they are stable at anchor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jon cook said: Aren't them meant to slam quite abit. Been advised against, but appreciate they are stable at anchor. Must fast fishers slam Jon. If you don’t want a boat that slams drive slowly. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon cook Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Good point well presented, perhaps i should have said slam more than a V hull / plaining hull. GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Yep, the hull shape that gives stability at anchor is also the shape that slams when it drops back onto the water surface. Unfortunately you can't have both stability and a soft ride. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Jon cook said: Good point well presented, perhaps i should have said slam more than a V hull / plaining hull. Those Wilsons will still plane, they'll just slam when they drop off or try to go through a wave. It wouldn't necessarily be a deal-breaker for me. After all, during a day long session, you're at anchor for longer than you're under way, so you may find that stability is what you value more. jonnyswamp 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintly Fish Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, Andy135 said: Those Wilsons will still plane, they'll just slam when they drop off or try to go through a wave. It wouldn't necessarily be a deal-breaker for me. After all, during a day long session, you're at anchor for longer than you're under way, so you may find that stability is what you value more. If it’s good enough for Graham Pullan... GPSguru 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 Or you could go for a hybrid hull shape - shallow V at the bow, but dory style at the stern. Slams less and yet still has reasonable stability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 I only posted the Wilson as it’s just come up, but I looked at the pictures and it looks like a very well finished boat. Most of them look DIY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 It’s a lovely looking boat. Paul does awesome refurbs too. as for the engine, @headlighthas one, seems bulletproof to me. A lot of boat for the money there.... JonC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonC Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Saintly Fish, Jon cook and Andy135 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon cook Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Funny enough hes messaged me after i put a post up on the Raider FB page. Awaiting full details from him. He didn't seem to know age an engine history thou....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jon cook said: Awaiting full details from him. He didn't seem to know age an engine history thou....... That's a bit odd... and concerning. Jon cook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon cook Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I have however been offered an 18' raider..... good money an sounds a good package thats hardly beennused. But it has s 115 Merc optimax 2006 - with about 85 hours. Really wanted a more modern 4 stroke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon cook Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Andy135 said: That's a bit odd... and concerning. That was my first impression too, juries out but doesnt feel quite right. Edited December 9, 2020 by Jon cook Typos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 16 hours ago, Jon cook said: I have however been offered an 18' raider..... good money an sounds a good package thats hardly beennused. But it has s 115 Merc optimax 2006 - with about 85 hours. Really wanted a more modern 4 stroke. Opti max still a good engine, with low hours you can always sell and look out for a 4 stroke replacement Jon cook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andydavy Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Hi Jon, where is the raider? Quite happy to come and view with you. Andy135, Saintly Fish and Jon cook 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiters Moon Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Anyone know just how much more juicy a 115 Optimax would be compared to a four stroke? My impression is that they were about as developed as a two stroke could get. It would certainly push that Raider along nicely. Edited December 11, 2020 by Jupiters Moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jupiters Moon said: Anyone know just how much more juicy a 115 Optimax would be compared to a four stroke? My impression is that they were about as developed as a two stroke could get. It would certainly push that Raider along nicely. Hi Jeff, No idea on the Optimax but good to see you on the new forum (finally!) 😉 Saintly Fish 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiters Moon Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 36 minutes ago, Andy135 said: Hi Jeff, No idea on the Optimax but good to see you on the new forum (finally!) 😉 😂😂😂I know, I know..... it’s been remiss of me but, I’m a busy bloke you know, Did you miss me? . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jupiters Moon said: 😂😂😂I know, I know..... it’s been remiss of me but, I’m a busy bloke you know, Busy eh? Well, you can stay busy by posting up an Intro thread and some pics of Jupiter's Moon in the Show us yer Boat thread 😉 7 minutes ago, Jupiters Moon said: Did you miss me? Let's just say your absence was noticed 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jupiters Moon Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Blimey, if I wanted to be nagged, I’d stay at home with the Missus😂😂😂 Jon cook, Geoff, GPSguru and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy135 Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jupiters Moon said: Blimey, if I wanted to be nagged, I’d stay at home with the Missus😂😂😂 🤣🤣 "And mind you take your shoes off before coming in here, you'll leave a trail of muck and I've just hoovered!" Jupiters Moon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odyssey Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Optimal uses direct injection IIRC therefore similar to EFI 4S. However more noisy. Given a raider with engine at right height and propped correctly you’ll get 0.8l/m. Depending on how far you travel/how often I doubt you’ll see much difference in rubbing costs 🙂 Jon cook 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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